veec_cas_tant

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by veec_cas_tant 1mo ago
When the police ask for video evidence, they simply ask. They do not need a warrant. They might need a subpoena to force someone to hand it over, but I’m guessing that’s incredibly rare because people and businesses with cameras generally w
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by veec_cas_tant 1mo ago
Slippery slope from cameras on public streets to giving contractors unfettered access to your phone’s camera! Why even let the government investigate crimes at all if something bad might happen in the future? Instead of indulging in hyperbo
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by veec_cas_tant 1mo ago
Do you think every store in the Western world is just dumb for installing cameras? Cities like NYC, London, Singapore, etc.? I can't believe the number of people who want to argue that video footage is useless. If you drive through any
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by veec_cas_tant 1mo ago
In the USA? Any café you go to is reasonably likely to have cameras, both inside and outside. If you mean driving to a doctor's office, you probably pass by hundreds of cameras along the way: video doorbells, dash cams, Teslas, Waymos,
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by veec_cas_tant 1mo ago
I don't disagree: bad policing is a terrible issue. That does not mean we should prevent investigating stolen vehicles because a human might enter the characters incorrectly. I don't even understand how this story happened: > I
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by veec_cas_tant 1mo ago
Obviously an unpopular opinion on this site, but I wish we had speed cameras, red-light cameras, and ALPRs everywhere. Cars are incredibly dangerous and large numbers of people drive them like absolute lunatics. There should be absolutely n
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Probably because there’s a new Flock-bashing post every day or two on here, and there’s barely any tech relevance for a global audience.
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Does OCR accuracy even matter much here? I would expect, and maybe this is unrealistic, that anything even close to “this plate represents a stolen vehicle” would have at least one human involved. If I send in video evidence and someone jus
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
There seems to be a very sizable number of people who believe cameras should not be used as evidence because the footage could implicate an innocent person or be misinterpreted. OCR can be wrong, just as a person can make a mistake or fat-f
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Yeah legally there might be a difference, not my area. The question was whether I’d be fine with a GPS tracker and the answer is I have opted in already with numerous GPS tracking devices, both in my car and on my person. I don’t believe fo
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Every car I have owned in the last decade has a GPS tracker built in and I carry one in my pocket and on my wrist. I don’t believe any warrant is required for police to follow someone, so they wouldn’t even need the tracker!
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
> One that uses previously unimaginable technology to circumvent the spirit of the Fourth Amendment, which consistency tells us would have otherwise explicitly protected us from such abuse Is it the AI or the number of cameras? It can’t
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
There are police and security all over popular areas, nobody is alarmed. I’m guessing the average person feels safer. Would airports really feel safer without cameras and security?
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
I have never heard anyone try and argue that video evidence is not effective. That’s a pretty big stretch. There is nothing reversed with Flock. There is a crime scene, they see who was entering or leaving and work from there. Without plate
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
They ask and everybody turns the footage over. They need nothing at all to ask for the footage, it just takes a large amount of man hours and ends up producing grainy, low-res footage. Everybody knows how important video footage is, so the
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Police already don’t need warrants to gather video footage from homes and businesses. It certainly isn’t ineffective or else they wouldn’t do it, but everybody knows how effective video footage is. The difference for most does seem to be th
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
> CCTV… is looked at by no one unless something happens Exactly as these new more efficient systems should be used. > … uses AI to track vehicles and people Why would wasting a team of people’s time manually reviewing hours of footage
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
It’s a nice dystopian fantasy but completely unrelated to cameras of public spaces in our current world. It sounds like you are more against the internet than cameras in public spaces, way better tracking data there! There is zero liberty b
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Potential for abuse is an issue that should be met with legal constraints, not an abandonment of video evidence. A world without Flock or competitors is still a world with hundreds of millions of cameras recording public spaces at all times
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Mostly due to the antisocial behavior described. I would not feel at all worried if someone walking on the same sidewalk as me was recording their child with me in the frame. Someone following me and jotting down notes is very strange behav
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Absolutely against using any sort of law enforcement powers for those purposes. I am against thought crime and support all sorts of wide ranging freedoms. We just disagree on if the possibility for misuse outweighs very real and powerful us
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Certainly would be upset, just like if I were misidentified by a human reading the plate number? Of course, I don’t see how it’s relevant though. I would expect at least some human review at some level, for sure! On the other hand, I have e
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Regardless of their laws, Germany has plenty of CCTV style cameras outdoors just like NYC and other major cities worldwide.
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
There are all kinds of law enforcement powers that do not require a warrant. Video footage is heavily volunteered as it is - they just go to your door and ask for you to send them a copy. I’m guessing the compliance rate is incredibly high,
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Why should I feel stalked and harassed by the cameras though? I didn’t feel bothered at all by cameras in NYC. I didn’t feel bothered in Singapore. I drove about 12 hours over the last couple of days and didn’t feel bothered by the numerous
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
I think even the most ardent supporter of CCTV or Flock or whatever would agree that misuse should be treated harshly. Zero difference between Flock and any number of investigative powers afforded to the government, many without a warrant.
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Isn’t the easy reply here that there is no expectation of privacy in public, unlike in one’s home? There are tens, or more likely hundreds of millions of cameras recording outside in the United States.
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
So you do or do not believe video evidence of a vehicle leaving a crime scene should be investigated?
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
Must be a misunderstanding here. You said: > How about if your license plate were stolen without your knowledge, placed on another vehicle of the same make and model, then photographed leaving the scene of a crime? > You would have to
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by veec_cas_tant 2mo ago
> First, I never implied disallowing analysis at a crime scene You weren't implying that video evidence of a car should be off-limits to the police? If stealing hair is too hardcore for a criminal, just use your example and imagine

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