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   by tombh 5y ago

   I'm the Tom Buckley-Houston that made that leading image! It went viral from a Reddit post about 8 years ago. It's amazing to see it keep popping up.
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   by tombh 5y ago

   But that's exactly my point, Kris carefully draws her arguments. Which is what gives her her authority, not the other way around.
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   by tombh 5y ago

   Hmm yes, but when Kris Nova says it it's different
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   by tombh 5y ago

   > especially [a code base] as shit as Kubernetes I completely agree that Kubernetes is best understood through the lens of Google's corporate interests. But 1. resorting to language like "shit" makes me question the writer
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   by tombh 5y ago

   Poverty is not an unfortunate side effect of civilisation. Indeed, economic gradient is the fundamental _basis_ of civilisation. I've been reading a lot about World Systems Theory (inspired almost entirely by books from r/AskHisto
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   by tombh 5y ago

   And that's a meaningless reframing. It is not a fundamental logical rule that you can change one side of a relationship in order to demonstrate its irrelevance. For example, "Did the chicken come before the egg?" can't b
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   by tombh 5y ago

   I can clearly see the ancient geological strata of Carboniferous and Devonian rock layers in my home country of Wales, particularly Pembrokeshire and the Gower! So my layman theory would be that tectonics pushed these once horizontal layers
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   by tombh 5y ago

   Sorry for the late reply. I really, really appreciated your in depth replies and your different perspective. Thank you so much for that, I learnt a lot things too :)
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   by tombh 5y ago

   This is amazing! Thanks so much for writing it out. It's so good to read about the same story from a different perspective. I'm only going to respond to one theme in it, I hope that doesn't come across as me not appreciating
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    by tombh 5y ago

    You're really missing my point. It's not always enough to create a technically successful project. Docker was a _cultural_ revolution, it had its finger on the pulse, and without that revolution Kubernetes would not have the tract
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    by tombh 5y ago

    That's a very fair criticism of my use of "exploited". And also I accept that "ecosystem" could be a descriptive stretch for Docker's release day. I think in the same way that you're concerned I'm mis
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    by tombh 5y ago

    Thanks. I must admit I've learnt a lot about Google's contributions from this thread, so it's been productive overall.
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    by tombh 5y ago

    I was put off by your sarcastic dismissive "Ya know". I may have a controversial opinion, but I don't think it warrants that kind of flippancy.
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    by tombh 5y ago

    But there were/are many projects that offer those higher levels of abstraction on top of Docker; Deis, Flynn, Rancher, Fleet. I just don't think Kubernetes was that innovative in that regard. It won out because I mean of course it
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    by tombh 5y ago

    If they were so innovative then why didn't they take the next step and make something like Docker?
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    by tombh 5y ago

    Thanks for responding to my soap boxy opinions! I actually wrote my own complete PaaS from scratch once[1], and contributed to a number of other PaaS projects. I totally agree that PaaS projects work great until they don't. The reality
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    by tombh 5y ago

    We might be going in circles a bit here. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding something. Docker was released with Dockerfiles, registry support (maybe not Docker Hub, I don't remember), a generous CLI; `start`, `build`, `ps`, etc. So I w
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    by tombh 5y ago

    Sorry if I caused any confusion, that's exactly my point. I didn't mean to imply that Heroku directly influenced the design and architecture of Kubernetes.
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    by tombh 5y ago

    Tapes and cards!! OMG that puts JCL into perspective! Sure Kubernetes' API hid Docker, but its marketing certainly didn't. And I'm not sure it's right to say Docker was eliminated from Kubernetes, it was simply made opti
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    by tombh 5y ago

    I just don't think it's fair to define Docker by merely its ability to isolate resources (that which distinguishes containers from VMs). Docker is an entire ecosystem of best practices, standards, tooling, packaging, documentation
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    by tombh 5y ago

    I think it's clear in everyone's minds that right from the start Kubernetes was making Docker a first class citizen right? Borg did not use Docker. Borg may well be the technical ancestor of Kubernetes, but Kubernetes owes signifi
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    by tombh 5y ago

    Very interesting about JCL being an older precedent for the 12 Factors, I've never used it, so I'll have to take a look. I totally know what you mean about OpenStack! So much potential, but just way too complicated. But I'm n
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    by tombh 5y ago

    My thesis isn't that Kubernetes isn't good, nor that it isn't successful (I use it, recommend it and am deeply grateful for it). Rather I'm disappointed that the documentary doesn't pay respects to the milieu that p
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    by tombh 5y ago

    I think you're missing my point. We're on HN right, where we often discuss the difference between technical merit and market fit. There's a time and a place for technically correct solutions, which Google excel at, but a succ
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    by tombh 5y ago

    I'd hoped that's exactly what comes across in my top-level comment. I've been lucky enough to be at or near the coalface of PaaS for most of its life, both as a basic engineer getting my head around deploying CRUD apps on Her
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    by tombh 5y ago

    I haven't written Ruby nor used Heroku in many years. I think it's more relevant to say I'm very deeply immersed in Open Source. I contributed to OpenRuko[1], Deis, Flynn and even wrote my own PaaS, Peas[2] that got on the fr
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    by tombh 5y ago

    Yes they were. But like I say, I think the 12 Factors were more important. And Heroku in general just understood hacker culture better.
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    by tombh 5y ago

    > google’s SRE book details much more developer strategies [...] than 12 factor web app I would argue that's precisely the problem. Google are clearly capable of doing complex things, but inspiring and nurturing an entire cultural s
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    by tombh 5y ago

    I love Kubernetes, but this documentary makes me sad. The story of PaaS is absolutely worthy of a documentary, but to imply that Google is the protagonist is just pandering to the "rich kid" who brought little more to the table th
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    by tombh 5y ago

    Location: South America (British digital nomad) Remote: Yes Willing to relocate: Yes Technologies: Linux, Typescript, Ruby, Python, Kubernetes, Postgres. (Deno, Golang, Rust, Elixir) Résumé/CV: https://tombh.co.u