And that's a meaningless reframing. It is not a fundamental logical rule that you can change one side of a relationship in order to demonstrate its irrelevance.

And that's a meaningless reframing. It is not a fundamental logical rule that you can change one side of a relationship in order to demonstrate its irrelevance. For example, "Did the chicken come before the egg?" can't be refuted as a useful thought experiment just by showing that "Did the monkey come before the egg?" is nonsense.