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sweetheart
4y ago
You're getting downvoted, but you're simply correct in pointing out the hypocrisy in those who claim to value animal wellbeing while also funding animal agriculture.
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sweetheart
4y ago
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sweetheart
4y ago
I don't think any of the sources you mentioned here actually justify animal agriculture on the grounds of causing less death, though. The first two sources aren't specific to agriculture specific to human consumption, just agricul
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sweetheart
4y ago
https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/vegans-kill-animals-too/re...
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sweetheart
4y ago
Animal agriculture is one of the largest contributors to the climate crisis, so I don’t think your point about carbon capture is valid.
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sweetheart
4y ago
Here is a calendly link if you'd like to find time to chat. You shot down my book recommendations, why not talk with me about all this? https://calendly.com/veganism-chat/30min
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4y ago
> I don't intent to change your mind, only to explain to you a perspective that you apparently find incomprehensible I spent decades eating animals and claiming that I loved them. You are not exposing me to new ideas. I was a carnis
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4y ago
Here is the link to my calendly if you want to put time down to chat. I won't be upset if you're too afraid, though! Cheers. https://calendly.com/veganism-chat/30min
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4y ago
You think you’re making some type of well constructed argument, but it’s the same flawed reasoning that every. single. carnist. uses over and over and over. it’s extremely tiring. You’re also very hung up on my typo. Why? It just makes your
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sweetheart
4y ago
My email is in my profile. If you want to discuss it we can schedule time to video chat. I was not exaggerating when I said that I have explained this concept hundreds of times and I am so tired of it.
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4y ago
Whether or not you can find information on how anemic animals behave when confined to cages doesn’t change the fact that this suffering does occur. The obligation is not on me to painstakingly hold your hand through understanding how fucked
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4y ago
There is a lot here to respond to. A LOT. I could spend an hour typing out a monolithic response but that won’t be as good recommending some reading to you. “Eating Animals” by Jonathan Safran Foer is a great start, and “A Plea for the Anim
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sweetheart
4y ago
The fact that you see advocating for the widening of the circle of moral consideration as “pandering not hypothetical future moralists” is an embarrassing self burn.
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4y ago
How exactly did I mis characterize your argument? I’ve reread it about 10 times and cannot understand how you’re advocating for animal welfare. You say that people can easily value animals lives less than their tastebuds, but still want to
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sweetheart
4y ago
https://youtu.be/zmu0-1qj-vo You’re right. I meant to type veal. Here you go!
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sweetheart
4y ago
The fact that some people need to have it explained to them that just because you _could_ cause someone more harm doesn't justify causing them a lesser amount of harm is just mind blowing.
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sweetheart
4y ago
> Especially when the change you champion will only happen when those that make money from meat no longer do. We can all think of a couple historical instances of radical social change which necessitated short-term economic sacrifices an
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4y ago
> Self defense is an easy first place to look. There are some extremely relevant and notable moral differences between someone defending their own life from a threat, and raising a lamb in a cage so small that it cannot turn around, forc
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4y ago
You are more than capable of figuring out why the scenario you laid out has very little, if anything, to do with how we treat animals. I have responded the comment you just wrote _literally_ hundreds of times. I am so tired of it. You can f
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4y ago
When people proudly proclaim that they simply do not care for the suffering of animals, I wonder if they realize that they sound like the millions of people who were on the wrong side of history. The circle of moral consideration in the Wes
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4y ago
> Basic premise is they only wanted to eat meat if it was from somewhere with animal well-being and conservationism as a focus When meat is being served, you know animal welfare is not being considered. One cannot claim to value the welf
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4y ago
Veganism is a moral philosophy, so it really _only_ makes sense to use that term when referring to people. "Vegan" food is short-hand for "plant-based" food. Food does not subscribe to moral ideals, only people do. It&#x
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4y ago
Vegan for nearly 7 years here. Got all my blood work back a couple months ago and I couldn't be healthier! I don't even know much about nutrition tbh. I eat a variety of things, make sure I get B12, and just try to eat green thing
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sweetheart
4y ago
yikes
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sweetheart
4y ago
A "wartime" business person is a hilarious idea. Gotta feel manly somehow, I guess!
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sweetheart
4y ago
Why the parenthesis around “saving lives”? You seem skeptical that actually contributing to saving lives is possible.
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sweetheart
4y ago
Sure, but _why_ is the question. I cannot understand how you think more good comes from making sure the local boys soccer club has a clean field to play vs. ensuring 4 families will sleep without the risk of contracting malaria. What makes
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4y ago
There is a lot in here that seems like unsubstantiated opinion, like the only sane way to give money being donations to a community, but I do agree that billionaires are policy failures. I just don’t see how all that relates to an individua
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How do you come to that conclusion?
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4y ago
Can’t we just cut through the Gordian Knot and understand that our moral obligation is somewhere between an annual donation to a local opera house, and donating all your excess money to organizations to end malaria? It’s so tiring to see th
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