shabier

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by shabier 5y ago
Which part of "So North Korea is doing good then" do you not understand? Earlier, you said "sure, from their perspective they are" in reply to "So North Korea is doing good then". I suppose that your agreement
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by shabier 5y ago
> because, you know... No, please, do tell. Does a different stance make you fascist? Or does it make you pro-Putin? Or are you about to accuse me of being paid for taking a different stance? You've already called me "f cking
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by shabier 5y ago
> the issue is "a literal fascist government is invading a sovereign country and their propaganda machine is in full throttle mode". Explain to me how you would come to that conclusion if it wasn't for the media? And how w
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by shabier 5y ago
> can't blame him for fog of war That's exactly what you should, though. Especially if you're in his position, where the smallest wimp is taken as fact. > And he didn't call for violence but for response from inte
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by shabier 5y ago
Yeah, sure, let's completely depend on our own honest media rather than being able to cross-check it with opposing parties. It surely won't create an echo chamber wherein our own media could report whatever they want, it surely wo
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by shabier 5y ago
So North Korea is doing good then
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by shabier 5y ago
> Freedom of speech is not freedom of inciting violence and hatred. Zelensky lied about a Russian shell hitting a nuclear plant and called for retaliation, which is exactly inciting violence. There's a lot of misinformation spread b
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by shabier 5y ago
Agreed. It is much easier to be aware of what the other side is thinking and, if the situation or platform allows it, to challenge those ideas.
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by shabier 5y ago
Just because some commenters disagree with an action doesn't mean they're "pro-Putin". Please refrain from that tribal, binary thinking- it doesn't help the cause.
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by shabier 5y ago
> Eg. They aired unedited coverages of many of the Trump campaign rallies. Except when it comes to the controversial topics. CNN is everything but honest or objective
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by shabier 5y ago
So it is western media but from a Russian POV
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by shabier 5y ago
> most russians (and more importantly russians abroad) are presented with the same tired old propaganda they always did I'm going to be thát guy; do you have sources to support that claim? I've been hearing about that sentiment
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by shabier 5y ago
Oh yes, exactly that. This is a slippery slope.
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by shabier 5y ago
> The only way to stop a bully such as this is to hit them the hardest, most brutal way, earliest. Only if we had the same attitude against European countries or the US. It really seems like a one-sided stance most of the time. One of th
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by shabier 5y ago
Oh please, the same happened in the US after 9/11, and we all rolled with it. Cut the free speech nonsense, we're (as in big tech) not enforcing it either.
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by shabier 5y ago
> It doesn't work. > Look at Trump, no? pack of lies from start to finish and half of the USA believes him. And they're entitled to that. If anything, we're to blame for not being able to make a convincing enough argume
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by shabier 5y ago
> Russians are entitled to what the west decides to give them unless they want to do a better job themselves. Please get off your high horse, that's just disgusting. Yikes.
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by shabier 5y ago
> In the West, you have a range of views and there is no deliberate censorship of views by the State. In Russia, you get and only get what the State produces I would argue that big tech is making an effort to sway public opinion in cert
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by shabier 5y ago
> Ok, but what does Russia offer the rest of the internet besides badly written malware ... honeypots full of fuzzing robots? Does that even matter? The access to the general internet isn't something you have to "earn". Yo
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by shabier 5y ago
> The Russian State is and has been for a long time pushing a profoundly anti-Western agenda. We've been having our fair share of anti-Russia propaganda as well, we're not innocent of what we're accusing Russia of. > Th
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by shabier 5y ago
Cyberattacks are not limited to borders or geolocation- it can be sent/executed from anywhere at all times. And, like the letter mentioned, the request wasn't to "remove" Russia from the internet but rather restricting a
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by shabier 5y ago
It wouldn't surprise me if AWS would do just that, given their history.
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by shabier 5y ago
Regardless of how we feel about the current conflict between the countries, it is absolutely essential to keep the internet open and accessible to everyone, including those who we don't agree with.
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by shabier 5y ago
I agree with you on that. Isolating them or ourselves from them will only trigger those who're already vulnerable to extremism to be become even more extreme.
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by shabier 5y ago
Here's a crazier idea; we shouldn't restrict Russia in any way. It's almost a bad idea to silence voices, no matter how much we disagree with them. If anything, it is more important to challenge their propaganda with better,