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2y ago
I'll just restate it here: there are no arguments that are both rational and anti-Israel . In order to argue against Israel, particularly that Israel is somehow deeply immoral, one must distort, deny and divert. There is no argume
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2y ago
To answer you. The ideal situation would be a borderless friendliness between Israel and the Palestinian states of Gaza and the West Bank. No attacks. I know that Israel would be delighted to have peaceful, prosperous neighbors. I know that
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2y ago
This is not a judgment. It's an accusation by South Africa. Neither more nor less. The ICJ has not rendered any decision yet. Ok, I've tried to get a coherent argument out of you and I have just about given up. If you'd like
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2y ago
You literally just sent a link without reading it as I asked you not to do. Please do the work of actually understanding what it is that you're linking and then explaining it. You will see that this is not whatever you seem to think it
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2y ago
Lots of tit-for-tat here. My thesis is that it was not Zionism that caused today's conflict, but today's conflict is but a continuation of centuries of Arab violence against Jews. In support, I offer the fact that the Irgun attack
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2y ago
> The truth about this universe is that Israel has been braking international humanitarian laws... What laws? Usually when people answer that question, they just refer to a law ("look up the Geneva Conventions") and then disa
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2y ago
I mean, really, if you do not believe that the State of Israel should exist, then outline a realistic plan of what will happen to the Israelis after its end?
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2y ago
Lol. Noo... you have no more context than I do. You're just making shit up.
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> This isn't a question of 1937 versus 1939 You have decided this 2 years difference allows you to entirely dismiss the significance of this being the first retaliation after centuries of Arab attacks. I don't blame you. I
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2y ago
> Your other bullet points seem to be ancillary: no one is acting on what Hamas is claiming about the ongoing genocide, for example. And Gaza Health Ministry numbers are a huge red herring (even Israeli military intelligence considers t
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2y ago
Against a guy's essay , which was criticised, you have actual murders, rapes and robbery by Arabs against Jews. Here is a list: "List of killings and massacres in Mandatory Palestine" : https://en.wikipedia.org&
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2y ago
> Deplorable though it is, it gets into a different topic I am going to argue something different, and I would like you to seriously entertain the idea. The argument is: anti-Semitic harassment and anti-Zionism are part-and-parcel. Con
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2y ago
Your downstairs neighbors would probably also appreciate it!
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2y ago
Guidelines: Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it.
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2y ago
I guess my question wasn't so much "What is a realistic solution?" but more "Would we even recognize a realistic solution if it were presented to us?" The enterprise of starting a colony on Mars is so unprecedented
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2y ago
The conflict in Palestine started way earlier than that. At least since the end of the Ottoman Empire in 1917. Might have really gotten going with the Hebron Massacre of 1929 but even that was preceded by Arab riots beginning even in 1920.
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2y ago
Ok, you've described the problem again, but I'm trying to understand what a realistic answer would look like. Let's say for instance that some answer were "handicrafts built from local, Martian materials" along with
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2y ago
> how do you actually create a self sustaining Martian economy? I've never heard a realistic answer for this. What would a realistic answer even look like? I imagine that since nothing like jump-starting an economy ex nihilo on
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2y ago
> But enough about Blade Runner 2049 Kidding aside, while Blade Runner 2049 is a really great movie, I cannot accept it as canonical. The original has a sense of humor, sexiness, and even tenderness that 2049 does not. The original has
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2y ago
> What is the point of this whataboutism? I'll answer, but I ask again: do you know what it is about the Palestinian cause that has you so exercised? Above, say, the Syrian or Sudanese or Yemen or Saudi or Iraqi or Lebanese causes
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2y ago
I dunno. I feel like these Israel-Palestine threads always get more thoughtful after the first few rounds of tribal chest-beating.
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2y ago
Even if you take "neighbor" literally as adjacent and so do not care to include Yemen or Sudan, then consider the death rate of Syria. 300 thousand civilians dead and counting. 3,000 Palestinians massacred in the Yarmouk Camp Si
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2y ago
> I'm confident we agree more than we disagree about all of this stuff. I do think we all want Palestinians to live peaceful and prosperous lives. Despite what many anti-Zionists believe, Israel would like that for Palestinians to
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> We only have a problem if we agree with the contention that kids protesting genocide are some sort of chaos agent. Logically, they are, though. They are impervious to logical argument that it is not a genocide. Their only evidence, u
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2y ago
> The comment you are replying to is ridiculous. Frankly by engaging I perpetuate ridiculousness and I should know better. This is against the community guidelines. With over 13k karma points, you know better. I hesitate to ask, but pr
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2y ago
It seems like everyone lied to that CTO. If you are, or become a CTO, be the CTO that no one feels the need to lie to you.
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2y ago
Again, why was a wall built? In response to what? Did you know that Finland is building a wall on her border with Russia? In response to what, would you guess? Is one of these walls ok but the other not? If not, why not? A wall is the most
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2y ago
Except... Here is an open letter from the Jewish students at Columbia. Their experience there sounds pretty terrifying. Imagine yourself going through these experiences: https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d&
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2y ago
Ok. I will cheerfully agree to disagree while also conceding that your point is arguable.
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2y ago
> Why would anyone believe this is not just manufacturing a pretext for escalation? Why would anyone believe that?
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