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nf8nnfufuu
7y ago
Do modern notebooks still have vibration sensors? I think old ones had them in the hard drives, to protect them from damage. But SSDs wouldn't need that anymore. In any case, I wonder if detecting vibrations and recognizing the boss vi
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nf8nnfufuu
7y ago
"Why two beautiful young women though - that seems not to be likely due to chance and surely enough to make any rational person wonder what they hell is going on?" What if a person likes to work with beautiful young women? That&#x
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7y ago
"By implication that anyone not held directly against their will couldn't be a victim." I never said any such thing. I said the opposite thing: that it is possible a young assistant to an old guy is not a victim. That's
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nf8nnfufuu
7y ago
While I think in general it is also important to understand how such things work - how young girls are being exploited. However, here I didn't even talk about his sex exploits. I only asked about a paragraph about perceiving a man with
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nf8nnfufuu
7y ago
I'm in no way defending Epstein in any way. It is horrifying how many people in this thread seem to be unable to understand that. I hope nobody of you works in the legal system. You have a prejudice, and you can only see what confirms
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7y ago
The women could simply lead a normal life without Billionaire perks, like Billions of other women do. They are not forced to sell their bodies in exchange for a Billionaire lifestyle.
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7y ago
That's not what it is about. It is about the story at a certain point of time in the past. Nobody is assuming Epsteins innocence today.
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7y ago
Paragraph said nothing about the girls being under 18. It says "young women". Also didn't say anything about his reputation (at the time the story took place).
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7y ago
My interest here was in how people judge other people, not in Epstein's exploits specifically. I don't see what I would gain from reading that article. I would be interested in what made the Media Lab guy do it. I suppose many peo
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7y ago
I have no issues with him being forced out of his position. I have an issue, in this sub sub thread, with people mandating that I should have considered that head of Media Lab would openly meet a convicted sex trafficker.
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7y ago
Sorry, but 1) is really the only valid indicator here (and it wasn't mentioned in the story). Otherwise you are denying attractive young women from Eastern Europe the ability to get work in the US.
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7y ago
Even young East European models have to work somewhere (at least some of them). (Paragraph called them "young women", not "teens", btw). Should young women only be allowed to work for poor people, if they are attractive?
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nf8nnfufuu
7y ago
I know about Epstein (superficially at least), I wanted to know what was damning about the quoted paragraph. Those are different things.
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7y ago
I read the first half of this: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/business/mit-media-lab-je... That is the original article this while comment thread is attached to. It doesn't mention existing conv
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7y ago
Because my comment was about the cited paragraph, not about Epstein. I had no reason to assume Epstein was already known as a sex trafficker when he visited MIT. It would be a very weird assumption - why would the head of MIT Media Lab meet
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7y ago
Misogynist: because you tend to assume negative things about women.
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nf8nnfufuu
7y ago
No, this wasn't about Epstein, but about the general claim of rich old men having power over women.
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nf8nnfufuu
7y ago
So you assume every time young women are staying with an old rich man, they have been extorted to do so? Sorry, that seems extremely unlikely. I find it shocking that you think that way. Just because somebody is rich also doesn't mean
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7y ago
Picking vulnerable girls - OK, manipulative. 14 year olds, too - but those "assistants" presumably were older. Threats - threats are threats, going beyond "manipulation".
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7y ago
Like what - what should I have googled for? "Why did MIT staff suspect Epstein's assistants to be sex trafficked"? I was replying to the comment about the "damning paragraph", so I assumed the damning parts would be
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7y ago
I've read about the first half, which didn't mention that Epstein was already convicted for sex trafficking by the time he arrived at MIT in that story. It didn't occur to me that he would be walking around freely doing deals
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nf8nnfufuu
7y ago
If you have rarely been able to actually find the answer, why do you assume prostitute? Sounds rather misogynist to me.
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7y ago
"psychologically manipulate" - isn't that just a loaded way of saying "convince"? Did he actually do all those other things, beatings, threatening? Or is it such a stereotype that it is just assumed that it must hav
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7y ago
Some of the things you mention are different from the others (drugs, maybe lies). But overall, in my opinion you are taking away too much agency from the women. It is too easy to blame somebody's actions on "manipulation". Th
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7y ago
No I mean you have to try to recognize the face. Otherwise you can not decide whether the face is from a person who wants to be identified or not. I don't see how it could work any other way.
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7y ago
In general, old rich men have no special powers over young women. It seems conceivable that usually, they choose to be around him of their own free will. Otherwise, please explain what special powers old rich men would have over young women
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7y ago
Why was he running around free then? Had he already passed his time in jail?
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7y ago
I haven't looked into his case. What was his method - what did he do, so that the girls couldn't call for help? I think classically they are made to be illegal (no passport, have perhaps committed crime of prostitution, so they th
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I was specifically referring to the "most damning paragraph" claim, not an assessment of the situation in general. I guess it could be seen as damning that his staff thought that way, implying some unhealthy context - as you said,
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7y ago
Having young girl-friends is not the same as sex trafficking, though, or is it? I thought sex trafficking would be luring girls out of their country with false promises, then burning their passports so that they can't flee. I wouldn&#x
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