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That was slightly before my time in the industry, do you have any indication on how hard they were backing it? I mean IBM brings out a lot of stuff and was quite aimless in the late 90s/early '00s. They were supporting SmallTalk
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Interesting, I didn't know that And that after the BSDs were quite happy that a viable non-GPL compiler arrived on the market. Wasn't their final switchover just in 2017?
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> I don’t think Meyer understood that the era of free compilers had begun. It arguably hadn't. OOSC came out in '88, and that was probably the first big push of Eiffel. The dedicated book and the release of their IDE "Eiff
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I was just talking about Linux/BSD desktop apps and their implementation languages/libraries. Not a lot changed there, and the RESF seems to focus on more fashionable/achievable things (The only non-C++ option for Qt right no
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Enterprises supporting their sunk costs supports a lot , that by itself isn't a good judgment of quality. I wouldn't be surprised if more enterprises use Clipper than Eiffel... Eiffel had similar issues that Pascal had: Appearing
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Definitely. That's why I got excited and thought that there's something specific about MLTon that's used for systems programming here (the capabilities of the "Standard" MLs vary a bit).
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Isn't the simplicity of SML one of its strengths, even Ocaml being more complex? If you're going for more sugar, F# might fit the bill. Can handle shebangs, too.
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Note that despite the origin of the link the book seems to use SML/NJ, not MLTon.
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Sure, the logic of the sigils is easily broken, but that just brings us back to every other language, with the added noise of the "$" sign (so pretty much to PHP). As for implicit variables, I rarely see anything else than $?, $|,
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"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."
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I wonder how you achieve this. The way I see it, Perl got that reputation mostly from a few sources: Heavy use of regexes when that still wasn't as common, the default variables like $_ and of course sigils (@list, $scalar, %hash). Sur
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Digital Audio Workstation in Excel
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RoR shares the features he was complaining about and then adds some more. As do most other frameworks concerning the same type of web apps, including those written in PHP. And sadly most of it necessary, if you don't just serve templa
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I'm calling the current version of RoR able to provide what the "is" state needs, while staying within the Ruby world (like antirez' example did). My point was that basically any other stack would be at least as complex
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I would say that e.g. the current Rails stack actually is quite complicated, but that's because the current web stack is a horrible mess and Rails does the brave attempt of managing all, from providing images to delivering JS package
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Contradicts history, but let's just see.
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The good thing about playing to fashion is that you just have to wait for things to cycle.
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No, and I don't like paying for membership and voting rights, either. Never mind the pervasive corporate sponsorship of most members on working groups, regulatory capture etc. But I think it's still better than ad hoc "RTFC&q
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I know it's bad preprocessor magic, but I kinda liked that. I thought about hacking together a quick "Oberon-ish" to JS "transpiler" for a while, of course going along with a decidedly Wirth-ian code style. I might
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Is there a "standard" for machine learning that's regularly capitalized?
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I think it's interesting to look at Tcl's pedigree and compare it with Perl. Both definitely have a strong Unix heritage. Perl's initial use case was scripting where you went beyond both awk and the shell, and regarding synta
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Today's there's also F#, which is the "" to Ocaml's ";;" and to SML's ";". Concurrent ML is definitely worth looking at.
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I'd like to do the exact opposite. Many a times have I hoped for a good article about a good language, but got presented with a memefied statistics article. At least on HN I still know what NLP stands for…
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ISO/ANSI would be my preference. That's still not the best model of language governance, but at least it's not down to one company. Also a decent sign of stability.
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I wouldn't mind one major thing from C++: A standard.
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This is a bit of a nirvana fallacy issue. The Next-like window manager family wasn't sold on purely visual merits, and thus even just having the window managers themselves provided some benefit. I don't see that as much in the Aqu
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Let's not forget AfterStep's daddy, bowman.
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More like ratfor, but this time with less raison d'être.
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> One might make the argument that NeXT's acquisition by Apple is something that almost every tech startup in 2020 could only dream of. One might also make the argument that this is basically the most extreme case of "acquihiri
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You can't really cite Oberon as 1992 mainstream computing, already back then Wirth was rejecting a lot of the things that were happening -- and continues to do so. Heck, Oberon-7 eliminated multiple returns… Both Wirth and Pike had the
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