That was slightly before my time in the industry, do you have any indication on how hard they were backing it? I mean IBM brings out a lot of stuff and was quit

That was slightly before my time in the industry, do you have any indication on how hard they were backing it? I mean IBM brings out a lot of stuff and was quite aimless in the late 90s/early '00s. They were supporting SmallTalk for quite a while, but on the other hand, so they did with RPG and PL/I…