lionshare

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Ask HN: Sellenium or Windmill?
5 points by lionshare 16y ago|1 comments
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by lionshare 16y ago
But not in Google Apps! Google had no problem to add tasks (talk to remember the milk). But why not project management? BTW - it's fair. J.Fried is using his ammunition to protect his business. But let's just call it what it is. Reg innovat
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by lionshare 16y ago
And you tell me, please, why there is no project management solution in Google Apss
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by lionshare 16y ago
Not a bit. They are a great company, great products and great inspiration. I just think that this post is ugly. He could wait a while, let them finish the finance, let them work, and in a few months write about the results. The rush, the hu
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by lionshare 16y ago
So 4 CS grads raising below seed round range for a much needed project and supported by so many people is a Curse? For THAT he could not sleep? A pity that this attitude comes from a startup news site. Again: It's a paradigm shift that shou
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by lionshare 16y ago
Huddle-chat was free. They shut it down for no reason but J Fried loud "Google is evil" complains. Techcrunch here http://techcrunch.com/2008/04/08/google-to-close-huddlechat/ Gigaom here: http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/in-the-huddlechat-
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by lionshare 16y ago
Than how do you explain his (successful) campaign against the free google chat that competes with Campfire? Google shut it down, basically, because it's "unfair to J.Fried". Since Google did it, nobody else dare to compete directly with Bas
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by lionshare 16y ago
Think Wordpress. Fried just doesn't want you to have that option for project management. It's not about Diasopora, it's about Basecamp.
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by lionshare 16y ago
fair, but let them finish the finance properly. This is not a reality check, it a move to stop the finance from a potential competing tool
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by lionshare 16y ago
great point
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by lionshare 16y ago
big diff
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by lionshare 16y ago
1. Everything in this industry "starts with a few geeks". Including FB and that colorful logo company. 2. Let's do the math: FB valuation is 25B. 2% chances * 25B = Expectation of 500M. In these terms, a 250K kickapp funding is super-super-
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by lionshare 16y ago
as long as the protocol is done right, applications are endless. TCP is maybe 30 years old? The copy is an issue - because once it's copied you can not fully control it, similar to Facebook. Yes, there will be disappointments. But it's not
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by lionshare 16y ago
True, true, true. They will not take FB themselves, but this project will start the underlying infra. The "BitTornet" of social networks. Than we will need the clients, the eco system etc. But it's the first essential step. And guess what?
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by lionshare 16y ago
hmmm... interesting. But really, to write some client software that stores and provides read/write of the common "social content" (pics, blog posts, writing on the wall etc) in common standard RESTful way is such a far fetched dream? It cou
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by lionshare 16y ago
well, they probably played with some draft code, hooking some libraries, and this is why they asked only 10K. as a summer vacation thing. but they are on something important, the idea is right, the timing is right, and technically feasible.
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by lionshare 16y ago
Exactly! We agree here. This is why they succeeded. And this is why the old anti-raising money arguments of J.Fried do not hold. And his "anti-evil" strategy also doesn't work here. So he picks the "no product" PR strategy (again, when Goog
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by lionshare 16y ago
"It's another to get in front of a movement that's predicated largely on hate" 37 signals, Getting real: "Have an enemy - pick a fight": http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch02_Have_an_Enemy.php Apparently Mr. Fried just picked them both. T
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by lionshare 16y ago
1. A common seed stage is 250K-750K and they are currently way below it. Since they are going open source, there is no better way to achieve it. 2. 250K+ for 4 people will give them the opportunity to focus and advance fast without financia
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by lionshare 16y ago
The reality check can be taken one day after the finance period is due. It's not a reality check, it's a deliberate attempt to stop the finance momentum. They have basic specs, and it doesn't look like a rocket surgery (as Steve Krug calls
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by lionshare 16y ago
nice comment from Fried blog (by Mark Pesce): "Jesus fscking Christ. What these kids need is a little support, not some idiot tearing them down because they suddenly find themselves in exactly the right place at exactly the right time with
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by lionshare 16y ago
If you asked MySpace/Friendster few years ago what they think about this student Zuck hacking something in the Harvard dorms, they would probably respond: LOL. What matters is the trend, and Fried is smart enough to see it. What unfair here
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by lionshare 16y ago
Why are they screwed? Where is it written that four probably smart and dedicated guys must fail? Because they will have a few month without financial problems? Because they have momentum and support? really. It's a nasty post to kill the fi
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by lionshare 16y ago
Agreed. They can get more. The whole idea of this nasty post is to say 170K is enough. They should reach a decent first seed round cap
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by lionshare 16y ago
I think it's not. It's not the "product". On the Campfire issue he fought against Google's fully baked and ready product. Since he can't stick "evil" to these guys, he took another PR strategy TO SPOIL FURTHER MONEY IN. As a "central hub" o
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by lionshare 16y ago
A Diaspora project management plug-in is a Basecamp killer, and J. Fried (=J. Afraid) knows it. What is Facebook? A central hub. What is Basecamp? a central hub. He did succeed to kill google chat client to make us pay for Campfire. But it
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by lionshare 16y ago
It's not Jason Fried it's Jason AFRAID. Because sooner than later we will see plug-ins that enable distributed project management. As these guys say, we don't need a centralized hub for social network. We also don't need one for projects (B
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by lionshare 16y ago
bad name
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by lionshare 16y ago
I do. But in hind sight I can't remember MS takes a 30% cut from the app developers selling their own apps.
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by lionshare 16y ago
why all this hate? maybe they are trying to comply with standards, maybe it will help, maybe we will not have to work twice to align the f CSS on IE? At least this is their formal goal and these are very good news.

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