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by jorgemf 9y ago
I had no idea (I am from another continent) thanks for the information. Do you know how they calculate the ratios for the pool of candidates? It seems it is not a easy thing to do.
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I think that if you have skills you will find something. if you don't have them then it might be more difficult than for men. Why do you think women cannot find ANY job in tech because of the systematic discrimination? I don't thi
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If it is either die or survive without choose survive, obviously. Why are you so sure the bias is there? Countries like Norway are one of the most equality countries but they have the higher ratios, which doesn't make sense because the
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I don't know the reason why women are not interested in tech. I think there is an important biological component and also a cultural issue. But I am not sure of the cultural issue because in countries like Norway, one of the most equal
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I think he said the ratio of women / men in the company was matching or close to the reality. That there are more men interested in tech than women and that trying to achieve a 50/50 was a mistake. Then the based the disparity of
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> Are you saying there are no situations in which applying a systematic adjustment as a function of gender to interview scores could result in a predictable net-fitness-increase in the resulting skill distribution of hired people? Yes if
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by jorgemf 9y ago
When I said "if I were a woman" I was talking about me. My personal opinion. I know that there are people that think differently. I prefer to work for a company that was able to see my skills than other that hire me because other
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by jorgemf 9y ago
He wrote a manifesto giving some actual biology facts and he wasn't talking about CS but something more close to biology (or at least from the point of view of biology)
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Maybe I should have added: In absence of anything that probe you are a hacker in biology.
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Thanks for the reference. You are right, if the ratio they want to achieve is close to the pool of candidates them I should apologize for my comment. But after reading the manifesto I think the ex-googler had the feeling the company was goi
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I read it.
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They are adding a bias in their selection process with gender diversity programs, so if two candidates are very similar they will probably select the one who belongs to the minority. As it is a minority, you are more likely to choose less q
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The pool of candidates are men and women who want to work in tech. I have no metrics of this pool but I think that most probably is something like 75/25 (if someone can provide better metrics I appreciate it). So the bigger the company
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That post is only a personal opinion based on his own bias and prejudices without any scientific reference. Moreover it make claims about the article that the author hasn't made.
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> If gender-based diversity programs are responsible for qualified women getting jobs that they otherwise wouldn't have gotten due to bias, then the lack of that program means those women wouldn't have gotten those jobs. This i
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Hiring people to achieve a diversity in the company and not hiring the candidate who fits better for the position.
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From the code of conduct of google [1]: > Equal Opportunity Employment > Employment here is based solely upon individual merit and qualifications directly related to professional competence. How are you going to achieve 50/50 div
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Not having a PhD in biology will probably make you less right than him.
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Other commenter here said he has a PhD in Biology from Harvard. I think it should give him some credit about what he said.
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> he had been fired for "perpetuating gender stereotypes." Of course, because a policy of positive discrimination for minorities is not perpetuating any stereotype... Equality doesn't mean equity. Equality is not fair. P.S
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I feel sad she couldn't report it because of the consequences. This only gives more power to the people who do it. But it makes me more anger the response of the dean that she couldn't report it or her career would be ruined.
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> If women think differently than men, wouldn't a significant increase in the number of women in a profession show up as a change in the general model of the profession? It makes sense but I think the problem is that women do not ge
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The video is called Hjernevask [1] and it is a Norwegian documentary. Norwegian is one of the highly gender equal countries [2], for your information. The reporter is interviewing Norwegian social scientists about their theories of gender a
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> I've seen no one suggest that the professions have significantly shifted in nature due to an influx of female brains Here you have it: https://youtu.be/cVaTc15plVs?t=1851 Most people in the video are scientists an
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I am against any bias, I want to asses people by their skills. What I am saying is that some skills are in our genes and we cannot/shouldn't change that (not even with positive discrimination). And you, instead of taking a look to
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So... In this article we have a person talking about the positive discrimination in a company and how it can harm the company. This topic can harm some people even when the author doesn't want to. You can think he is saying terrible th
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When I said clear discriminator I mean they are binary: either make or female, either black or white. Height or attractiveness are more diffuse for some people you can be tall/attractive but not for others. Gender and race are clear. I
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The north countries of Europe are consider as the ones where there is more equality between men and women, and on those countries the ratio women/men in some careers are more far from the 50/50 than in others with less equality be
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> you would be stupid and shortsighted to not find a way to utilize women and minorities in any way possible to serve your business. > companies like Google are doing exactly that by promoting policies to bring in and retain women The
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watch this: https://youtu.be/cVaTc15plVs?t=1851 (even better if you see it all) biology comes before history, history can be a consequence of biology > If men turn out to be naturally, as a group, less good at math than

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