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by jorgemf 9y ago
Well the manifesto is a clear claim of the positive discrimination in Google during the hiring process but if this is not true (which I am not sure), he should apologize. The top comment says the diversity programs only focus in increasing
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You don't find it, it finds you. You first have a problem or see a problem that annoys you, later you discover how to solve that issue and make a world little better place. Finally you get hands on and create a side project with the id
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I think there are studies that probe that claim. In my experience when I told some female friends to ask for a raise because they deserved it, some of them decided not to do it because a list of non-sense excuses (afraid to talk with their
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> You realize that you still are not selecting the most skilled candidate if you filter based on diversity at any level. This depends on the size of your sample and the positions to fill. It is easier to find one good candidate from 100
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As far as I understood he says google has a positive discrimination policy to hire minorities and want to achieve a 50/50 gender diversity (or at least something that doesn't match the diversity in the pool of candidates). That wa
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Can you describe the diversity program? I mean was it a program to source candidates from different places and make them enter the normal hiring pipeline, or was something like there are 1% positions reserved for minorities and you fill one
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This should have been the response of Google, and make him apologize. Not firing him. Why Google hasn't said publicly the same as you?
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> I wanted to ask is if we take gender based affirmative action, would that explicit form of action be consider moral when made into a general rule rather than applied locally by specific companies. If it is not, then why is it moral whe
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There are studies in infants that probes a different favoritism for things that are highly correlated with gender. How do you explain that infants without being corrupted by the popular culture still chose differently based on gender?
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> Your two examples list physical differences, not mental ones. Look what the experts say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVaTc15plVs&feature=youtu.be... If you see the whole video you hear different opinions > y
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You have prejudices about me. I have faced discrimination in another areas of my life. So I think I can have an opinion about it. I have also talked with woman that think the same as me. Are you discriminating me to give an opinion because
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There is a documentary called Hjernevask from Norway that had a lot of controversy because of the topic. It is good to see different opinions of experts and what happened there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVaTc15plVs
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I have faced discrimination in another areas of my life. So I think I can have an opinion about it. I have also talked with woman that think the same as me. Are you discriminating me to give an opinion because I am a male? I don't thin
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Strongly different of what you think there are a lot of PhD in the area that agree with him. That people have different biological systems and so the expressed skills are different. The same way genes express the gender they also express di
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I see several problems: 1) what happen if less than 40% want to be in the profession? Are you going to force them to join non-desire careers? 2) does it apply also to bad things? like for example the ratio of men in jail is higher, does it
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> At the risk of somewhat generalizing, a disability puts a person at disadvantage. It depends on the disability, but still disable people can do things that normal people cannot do. Everybody has skills companies can use, regardless the
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> You sure as hell shouldn't hire me because I'm female. You should hire me because the set of techniques I employ to do my job are effective, even though they might be less familiar to you I couldn't agree more with it. A
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by jorgemf 9y ago
You have to strive for the things you want in live, nothing is easy for anyone. Do I want a better salary? a better job? yes. But I want a quality of life, I don't want to work long hours. So I wont have something better because I have
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What if the cause is in biology? You will miss it that way. Bear in mind that we are like we are because of our genes. You are not blonde or brunette because something your mother ate or you did in another past life. Genes also impact in in
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by jorgemf 9y ago
> The only way you can make me reconsider is to make education free of cost and open to all candidates regardless of merit. This is true for some countries and the problems and solutions are still the same.
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Probably yes, at least the people interested in the position. Considering that distributions on both sets are the same, lowering the bar in the minor set is an unfair advantage of positive discrimination
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> That's she's brilliant, and lots of people assume she isn't because of some arbitrary prejudice So let's create tolerance programs for the people who has this prejudices. This will solve the problem, lower the bar f
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It is a subjetive measure but still a measure. For example, the position requires knowing Python, a person with 5 years of experience in Python will probably know more than a person with 1. Yes, you can be wrong but hiring the 5 year person
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What? As far as I know you shouldn't put your gender, age or photo in the CV because the company who review it can be sued for discrimination. (A recruiter from US made me delete that information when I was applying to us companies). I
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I don't like big companies, I prefer startups. I am happier. I once left a company because of the internal culture, they were not listening to the people from other countries. I didn't agree with the culture and left telling them
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I think this is like medicine, you can cure the illness or treat the symptoms. Diversity programs treat the symptoms, tolerance programs might solve the problem. I don't see how hiring women and putting in a toxic corporate culture wil
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I think you should cite references. It will make your point stronger and I want to read them!
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We don't need diversity program, we need tolerance programs so everybody can see the value of an individual regardless their gender,race or whatever thing irrelevant for the job
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As I said in another comment, we might need tolerance programs instead of diversity programs. We shouldn't assess anyone by their gender or other bias but for their skills for the job (where I say skills I mean also biological facts, l
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Stupid people are everywhere. I want to think that there is a big amount of people that is not like that. As a male I was told something similar in an interview at Google: if I would mind to work in a company where most people are men? And

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