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What? As far as I know you shouldn't put your gender, age or photo in the CV because the company who review it can be sued for discrimination. (A recruiter from

What? As far as I know you shouldn't put your gender, age or photo in the CV because the company who review it can be sued for discrimination. (A recruiter from US made me delete that information when I was applying to us companies). Isn't Google ratios similar to Facebook and other companies in San Francisco? (But not to other states). I am more confuse now after the information you gave me.

mr_spothawk 9y ago
> (A recruiter from US made me delete that information when I was applying to us companies) funny, when I started applying outside of the US, I added that information into my resume. in the US, there's often an attached (optional) form that allows the applicant to add this information. I'd never really put it together before tonight, but I've always shunned filling out that form. I also shunned saying the pledge of allegiance in grade school. wondering, for myself, if those behaviors are related.
alexbeloi 9y ago
>What? As far as I know you shouldn't put your gender, age or photo in the CV because the company who review it can be sued for discrimination. (A recruiter from US made me delete that information when I was applying to us companies). You're not being misinformed, this is probably good advice. Your demographic information doesn't have to be on your CV for your name to be cross referenced with a government database (audits I mentioned are done by government offices or government contractors), which you would probably be listed in if you are working in the US. >Isn't Google ratios similar to Facebook and other companies in San Francisco? (But not to other states). I haven't read anything about any audits that have said they have a significant bias one way or another, I don't think I've said anything to suggest otherwise. Google and other large corporations are known to do self audits of their hiring practices (demographic and otherwise) both to improve their hiring processes as well as to identify and correct discriminatory practices (mitigate legal risk), they are allowed to collect demographic information for the latter purpose.[0] [0]https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/tools-and-samples/hr-qa/pages/employerscollectraceandotherdemographicdata.aspx https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/tools-and-samples/hr-... My personal opinion is that Google's demographics changes are a simple result of changes in the actual applicant pool, and that Google 'promoting diversity' doesn't change their internal hiring process in any meaningful way. But the press about it probably does encourage lesser represented people to join CS majors in university. So google does promote diversity in engineering, just not in the way the author of that article suggests, and instead with marketing and a 4 year time lag.

mr_spothawk 9y ago

> (A recruiter from US made me delete that information when I was applying to us companies) funny, when I started applying outside of the US, I added that information into my resume. in the US, there's often an attached (optional) form that allows the applicant to add this information. I'd never really put it together before tonight, but I've always shunned filling out that form. I also shunned saying the pledge of allegiance in grade school. wondering, for myself, if those behaviors are related.

alexbeloi 9y ago

>What? As far as I know you shouldn't put your gender, age or photo in the CV because the company who review it can be sued for discrimination. (A recruiter from US made me delete that information when I was applying to us companies). You're not being misinformed, this is probably good advice. Your demographic information doesn't have to be on your CV for your name to be cross referenced with a government database (audits I mentioned are done by government offices or government contractors), which you would probably be listed in if you are working in the US. >Isn't Google ratios similar to Facebook and other companies in San Francisco? (But not to other states). I haven't read anything about any audits that have said they have a significant bias one way or another, I don't think I've said anything to suggest otherwise. Google and other large corporations are known to do self audits of their hiring practices (demographic and otherwise) both to improve their hiring processes as well as to identify and correct discriminatory practices (mitigate legal risk), they are allowed to collect demographic information for the latter purpose.[0] [0]https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/tools-and-samples/hr-qa/pages/employerscollectraceandotherdemographicdata.aspx https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/tools-and-samples/hr-... My personal opinion is that Google's demographics changes are a simple result of changes in the actual applicant pool, and that Google 'promoting diversity' doesn't change their internal hiring process in any meaningful way. But the press about it probably does encourage lesser represented people to join CS majors in university. So google does promote diversity in engineering, just not in the way the author of that article suggests, and instead with marketing and a 4 year time lag.