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6y ago
That’s just ridiculously, inexcusably wrong. The best estimates have been under 0.7% since March. The CDC current estimate is 0.65%: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena...
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6y ago
Calculating “death rate” with a denominator of “recovered people” is simply lying with data: of all of the covid metrics, “recovered people” is the least well reported. Of the millions and millions of people who have now had this virus an
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6y ago
It is not in the abstract.
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They are not. They freely mix studies from different circumstances. For example, the “mask” section mixes data for respirators and surgical masks, and does not differentiate between hospital or community use, source control or PPE, when the
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That’s because this isn’t a “study”, it’s a review. A review introduces no new information - it summarizes the existing literature. This is the meta-review commissioned by the WHO to investigate the value of PPE, and it is notable because i
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6y ago
No, the reason you “get so concerned” is because you are scared, and intent on spreading fear to others. You downvote factual comments simply because you don’t agree with them, and don’t want others to see them.
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6y ago
No. Facts are facts.
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The comment I made was _literally_ just two quotes from the gold-standard spanish doctors. Such evidence is good when it supoorts your narrative, and bad when it doesn’t. Think about that for a second.
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Did you see the parts of the article where they say that the most severe, “consequential damage” is predominantly found in the elderly and most severely ill? You’re implying that people who have mild cases (>99% of all cases; remember:
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6y ago
....most of which are mild, and which accompany any virus: ”According to Segura, who co-authored the study, the most common symptoms experienced by coronavirus patients were myalgia, headaches and dizziness.” And the truly killer quote:
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6y ago
Not really. Randomized controlled trials have been done. The experiment isn’t unethical - it’s just that it hasn’t been done often because all of the other, less-complicated experiments, also show very little effect.
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6y ago
There have been multiple publications in the last month suggesting that a substantial fraction (i.e. 40% or more) of the population could have some level of cell-mediated immunity to the virus. https://www.sciencemag.org/new
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6y ago
Yes, what’s your point? There is no “effect size” here, because the sample pool is biased. This isn’t a case control study. A group of doctors said they saw patients with X and Y, and that Y is somewhat rare. At best, this is suggestive tha
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6y ago
No, the paper is a list of brain illnesses observed in a small group of patients who were also found to have covid. The paper makes no attempt to draw a causative link between covid and the cited illnesses, nor could it , with a sample of
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6y ago
” And the idea that only 20-30 year olds are getting the disease is wishful thinking - the highest risk situation is from household transmission, at over 80% likely. Combine high infections with a general disregard of safety and those olde
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They have done nothing of the sort. Tegnell was quoted as saying he would do some things differently , but was explicit that avoiding lockdowns was not something he would change. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-healt
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”Remember what the official word was...masks don’t work, but save them for health workers.” Three things: One, nobody’s recommendations have changed with regard to “saving” masks: you should not be using medical-grade equipment, such as N
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6y ago
The numbers I cited from the CDC for Covid are symptomatic fatality rates. You can work out an asymptomatic rate by using their estimated percentage of asymptomatic infections, if you like. > Where are you getting the numbers for flu? As
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I had it (confirmed by a high-quality test), and never had a symptom beyond a mild cough. Somewhere between 20-50% of infections are believed to be completely asymptomatic: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/
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”So much emphasis is placed on the fatality rate, but there’s a lot of middle ground between asymptomatic and dead.“ ...and this is the same middle ground that exists for every other cold and flu, every single year. Anosmia is a common si
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I wasn’t making a broad comparison to the flu. But if I were, I’d cite the most recent CDC numbers, which put the overall fatality rates somewhere around 3-4x worse than the flu, in the expected case: https://www.cdc.gov/cor
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This is the same middle ground that exists for every other cold and flu, every single year. Anosmia is a common side effect of a variety of illnesses, and in the vast majority of cases, it resolves on its own. But this fact doesn’t make goo
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I will stress again that if your only bar is ”seems like it might reduce transmission rate” , then you can justify literally anything . We have to do something (to reduce transmission)! This is something! Let’s do it!
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Yep, we’ve done all manner of unproven, dubiously effective measures at incredible cost, because “we have to do something!” That is not itself a justification for doing more of them.
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You’re focusing on the “virus scary and contagious” part, and skipping the part where you show that the proposed method is effective at stopping it. As many others have noted now, if I can bring a test result taken days ago, I can easily ha
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Anecodotes are not data. The numbers are absolutely clear: if you’re under the age of 50, you are overwhelmingly likely to have nothing more than a minor illness. Over 30% of infections are estimated to be asymptomatic. In New York, over
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By that logic, you can justify literally anything : if it might have some theoretical impact on “transmission rate”, you do it because doing something makes people feel like they’re doing something.
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” I see this style of thought a lot, which I find extremely short sided and problematic. It’s like “well they were old anyway so who cares if they die.” I challenge you to quote the portion of my comment where I said anything resembling t
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”Source? Your link only has CFR (and >10%)” The link I provided has IFR, and is where I got the NYC numbers I quoted. They’re in the bar graph, expressed as rates per 100k. The best reference I know of for a global, age-adjusted IFR as
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The infection fatality rate for this virus is somewhere between 0.5% and 1%, heavily skewed to the oldest members of the population. This is most reflective of the chance that an infected person will actually die, if you don’t take age in
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