ibnez120

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by ibnez120 17y ago
evgen, You are completely wrong when you say "very few of them" have the level of consciousness required for the abuse to be torture." All factory farmed animals are tortured physically and psychologically -- tens of billions the world over
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by ibnez120 17y ago
That might be because we're the only ones here who are willing to call it what it is. Meat-eaters may not want to admit that they are most often supporting unbelievable torture -- a human's worst nightmare, in fact. Obviously, the issue of
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by ibnez120 17y ago
Why would that be poetic justice? Vegans are contributing to a cleaner, healthier, less cruel planet (and by the way, can have perfectly healthy diets without the increased risk of heart disease, cancer, etc., that meat-eaters have). Meat-e
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by ibnez120 17y ago
moron4hire, You'd be less intelligent too if you'd been selectively bred for thousands of years to promote complacence and stupidity. Still, to call farm animals "barely more than walking vegetables" is highly uninformed. Pigs, for one, hav
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by ibnez120 17y ago
Nobody on this forum has argued for granting other animals moral consideration based on cuteness or anthropomorphism. I didn't see anyone elevating anything else over rats, either. Farm animals and rats intrinsically deserve not to be tortu
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by ibnez120 17y ago
"What can be said is that cows are not sapient/conscious." The ability to perceive pleasure and pain is absolutely enough to not be tortured and slaughtered. You have done nothing to prove (or even argue) that it shouldn't be, yet the burde