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hotdogscout
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"I think it's sociologically healthy for our species that people with ugly, hateful ideologies face as much resistance as possible, in many forms, all the time." I really don't think I'm being unfair in saying that
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If you look at any right leaning pundit online you'd see substantial instances of violence against the right. Look at Andy Ngo's Feed. 1924 preceded McCarthyism by 3 decades. I conceded that the stonings did happen against Black p
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>1 I'll need to look at data on that before conceding or disagreeing. (Not your job I'll look later) >the people organising or allowing the events in the first place are the one in charge How come? If I go to a town square t
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I was talking about "and the 2023 Whitworth University disinvitation of Xi Van Fleet, a Chinese dissident who grew up during Mao’s Cultural Revolution." The comment claimed only the most vile ideas get deplatformed and a lot of th
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I don't think they're equivalent on the west (why is it relevant?) but I do think you're softening a lot the harm of the academic example because the violence against the speaker is just the tip of the iceberg. If a victim of
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This is a loaded question and I can't see how it's related. A victim of Maoist violence was deplatformed by socialist students. Do victims of socialist governments represent such an abhorrent ideology?
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That's a far cry from the context he painted. Socialists were absolutely not under that kind of violent lynching level of abuse and it was quite the opposite in Academia. [Just to be clear, did not know about Red Summer and I concede t
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different spaces have different harassment problems. Academia can have an extreme concentration of leftist dogmatism while political society can have a far right one. Both can happen at the same time in different communities.
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A victim of Maoist violence represents an "ugly hateful ideology"? This shunning bar has been moved from fascists for some years.
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Implying?
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>some deplatforming attempts are themselves an exercise of free speech, where people who feel excluded from the platform are trying to rebalance the debate by asking that we stop focusing on debunked theories. Bizarre paradox where a gro
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In 1924? What? Socialism was extremely popular in academia during that period. The US had the Espionage Act but I cannot think anywhere the stoning of socialists would happen, let alone in academia. Stoning black people was never a thing as
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3y ago
Considering Israel also has horrible videos of egregious violence being committed at them by Palestinians it's concerning that you don't think that's grounds for propaganda or manipulation.
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I'm sorry but you have no grounds to claim you know Chinese people's political outlook based on a visit. Mainland China is still cut off from knowing a big chunk of human thought. Realism - the school of thought you're descri
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3y ago
Peer review isn't all that and a lot of subjects are censored and even disinformation is accepted if it flatters the ideological inclinations of the publication. See: Proximal Origins from Nature
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>half of them make less than 22k euros a year I'd be extremely happy making this amount. Some people are just accustomed to easier lives. >while some code monkey makes 300k+/year coding memeojis at apple. Meme position for a
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Yes you missed retail, read it again. https://uk.indeed.com/career/warehouse-worker/salaries Do you really need me to Google every single essential position known before conceding that society is not maintained by
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Essential and non-replaceable are different concepts.
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Not all of the work you cited is essential. Would society crumble without retail? Minimum wage in Spain is significantly more money than anything I've made in my life. It's a very comfortable position for the vast majority of the
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Are any of the positions you cited minimum wage workers where you live? Again, assuming US: https://money.cnn.com/2016/02/24/news/economy/trash-workers-... https://money.usnews.com/c
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Also not true, I know the big farms of my state and they don't depend on minimum wage workers and I live in a third world country. I doubt agricultural wages or truck drivers are minimum wage jobs where you live. Assuming US https:&
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>I think the HN crowd forgets that what really runs the world are min wage workers running around and doing real world things, not code monkeys and glorified type writers filling excel sheets. This is not true at all. How many products d
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The fact they have so many upvotes on blatant bigotry... and people say this forums moderation (or tech) doesn't have an issue of leftist radicalism. What happened to treat others like you'd like to be treated?
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I don't know what kind of damage you developed to wish harm on others based on their race or gender but you are a horrible person.
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Oof. I quickly skimmed the article. Any chance of treatment?
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It's almost like the "socialism" part of "national socialism" was not in fact irrelevant. See: Ba'aathism.
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I thought my blood brain barrier was faulty because of COVID but this makes sense too
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I'm not American or live in a western country. I wish I did. I don't agree I have more in common with a BLM protesters than someone from China or Eastern Europe. That's probably true for most people on these samples but surel
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I care because it's been increasingly impossible to say these "oddballs" are being extremely shitty people and should stop. The message they get and the message they have been getting is they are "agents of change".
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