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headsoup
5y ago
I noted that my reply, but sure, let's not take the cautious approach with vaccines and yet take the extremely cautious approach with covid (dying within 30 days of catching covid is counted as covid death in many countries). Covids de
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headsoup
5y ago
Except the trials are still underway, so yes, it is about scientific study. And proper diligence and reporting is critical for such a significant experiment, wouldn't you think?
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5y ago
> In what way is this related to "other people shouldn't be inconvenienced to protect you from the choices you have made"? Who is inconvenienced? And should I feel 'inconvenienced' by those going to hospital bec
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5y ago
Really? Ask Africa, which keeps 'confusing' the experts.
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5y ago
We don't know do we. That's the fact. And how would we know if the control group is just removed (as Pfizer did in their phase 3 trials anyway...)? I guess hopefully we don't find out, because the only way it'll ever b
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5y ago
Sorry, not assumption then. Same point though, I could take a different example number for a wildly different result. And so, if Africa is doing well because of prior infection, why the hell are we madly rushing to vaccination (that contin
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5y ago
Because they're human and you shouldn't pretend to assume you know their motives or circumstances. Should I decide all those in religious minorities deserve whatever comes to them because they choose not to follow the major religi
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5y ago
But that 2% of 10% are not standing in a line all holding hands. It's clear the vaccinated are readily spreading the disease around and yet the reward is greater freedom for them to spread it? Why do we not still care for the unvacci
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5y ago
100% is only an ideal if we don't really believe anything less will work... Don't we want some sort of control group to remain for these vaccines that don't formally conclude their trials for a couple of years yet? Or is ever
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5y ago
But people are still dying. It's not that the vaccines haven't prevented death, it's that we seem to be past the peak of what they can solve and yet keep putting all our eggs in that basket. Recent to Omicron, there were mo
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5y ago
What's a sufficient level then? It was once 70%, then 80, then 90. Now we have places pushing 95 and that's still not enough? Perhaps we should be paying a bit closer attention to what the vaccines aren't doing.
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5y ago
I think you mean false positives? Or are they just bad all-round?
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5y ago
Evidence of that? Adjusting for seasonality most places seem worse this year than last before the Omicron emergence.
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5y ago
There's a lot of 'indicates' and 'suggests' and 'potential' there rather than clinical outcomes. Given how the unvaccinated are mostly locked out of things at present, current case trajectories and hospit
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5y ago
Definitely wouldn't be the case in the US, they're fact checkers must be entirely legit because the media and politicians say so... The way a political 'side' can so swiftly (and hypocritically) move into authoritarianis
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5y ago
Except what is your assumption for hospitalisation % in the more transmissible variant based on? If it's for example 0.1% (remembering hospitalisation is already only something like 2-5% with Delta - as a 'with covid' ), tha
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5y ago
The immune system in children isn't primed 'particularly' for dealing with new viruses. It's that it hasn't trained itself on previous viruses and therefore attacking the new ones expecting something else. Their i
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5y ago
Actually, if a majority of Omicron cases are indeed mild, the only thing keeping the pandemic going is the reporting of 'case numbers' for the sake of maintaining attention. Which we could do for the common cold and cause panic wi
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5y ago
Yeah, and my point is the vaccine doesn't prevent this, so what else are you referring to, preventatives?
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5y ago
Ah the old 'right wing/denier' label. Carry on with your comfortable bubble of trusted scientists then.
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5y ago
Hmm, this article starts with building its own straw-man cynic to argue against for the rest of it. I think it is naive to define a cynic as a character whole (which sounds a lot like nihilism instead). People can be immensely cynical and
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5y ago
Quantify 'lasting repercussions.' What do you even mean here and how is it relevant if not in context of cases or 'anything else?'
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When all signs on Omicron so far are that it is mild, why would deaths and ICUs explode? And you say extended lockdowns for the unvaxed have failed because they 'cheated' without mention that being vaccinated does not a) stop you
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5y ago
The implication from your comment is that vaccination is preventing lasting repercussions, but it isn't (only reduces some of it, and no one knows what the long term vaccine repercussions are yet). So what was your point if not that?
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5y ago
So... No one who's vaccinated has had lasting repercussions? This logic is definitely going to go somewhere fun.
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5y ago
I think one problem here is the assumption the negative choice is 100% wrong, with people only possibly declining through some sort of irrationality. It is a false choice if one answer is discriminated against specifically. If that's O
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5y ago
Except I think there's a pretty good track record of companies knowing exactly how to get around these with shells, sub-contracts to overseas companies, too many hops and hand passes, loopholes, etc. Or you get fraudulent 'whistle
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5y ago
And that these 'other places' are not just infinite fountains of reliable water, if they exist at all... It seems modern expectations suggest that the solution always exists, we just need to be clever enough to find it (or 't
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5y ago
I've got his nature drawing book. It's a great reference and very readable. John is very enthusiastic, which makes for a nice role model to get inspiration from. I would say his stuff is quite focused on nature drawing and you s
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5y ago
You'll be up for review shortly, here is your list of 'healthy' substances as declared by the health minister. Deviating from this list is considered unhealthy and you shall be scheduled for gastric band surgery and excluded
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