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hannobraun
4y ago
(I'm the author of Fornjot.) > I wouldn't be suprised if the author of fornjot had similar feelings if they ever considered that approach. Yeah, I don't think I have it in me to work on a non-trivial project in C++ :) (Not
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hannobraun
4y ago
Ah, sorry! I missed that bit in the README and got confused :)
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hannobraun
4y ago
Hey, author of Fornjot here. Rust was chosen as a modeling language for two reasons: 1. Since the whole project is written in Rust, it was the most straight-forward choice. No dealing with bindings to another language or a scripting languag
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hannobraun
4y ago
Code-first CAD is the way to go for some users and some use cases. I personally won't make any stronger claim than that, nor will I accept any sweeping claims to the opposite. The average guy can keep doing what they're doing. For
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hannobraun
4y ago
Hey, creator of Fornjot here. I had experimented with f-rep for years before switching to b-rep for the current iteration of Fornjot. I came to the conclusion that f-rep, while neat, is too limited for what I intend to do. I came to a simil
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hannobraun
4y ago
FreeCAD is GUI-based though, not code-first like Fornjot. A better comparison would be CadQuery ( https://cadquery.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.html ) or Cascade Studio ( https://zalo.github.io/Casc
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hannobraun
5y ago
I will definitely keep reading and learning, as well as gaining practical implementation experience. We'll have to see how that goes, and what the solution will end up being. > Another direction you could take is to define just the
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hannobraun
5y ago
> How do you solve that in "code CAD"? I mean referring to a geometry that's a result of some previous operations, not one that you manually created. I've written down some preliminary thoughts here: https:/
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hannobraun
5y ago
I have a concept in mind, but have no idea yet whether it's going to work out: My idea is to require relationships between geometric objects to always be explicit. For example, you're not allowed to define a point that happens to
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hannobraun
5y ago
No idea :) I know I want it, and that's about the extent of the design work. There's loads of more basic capabilities to add, before it makes sense to tackle constraints.
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hannobraun
5y ago
Hey, creator of Fornjot here. > Shouldn't this be a separate project? Maybe. Not right now, I think. Not much of a point, as long as I'm the one doing most of the work. The kernel is available now as a separate library though,
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hannobraun
5y ago
Hey, creator of Fornjot here. Support for architecture use cases is currently listed on Fornjot's feature wishlist: https://github.com/hannobraun/Fornjot/discussions/146 As is noted there, I lack any exp
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hannobraun
5y ago
Hey, creator of Fornjot here. > I do question whether Rust is the write choice for defining models, You're not the only one :-) As I've written in reply to other comments (here and elsewhere), it was just the easiest option to
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hannobraun
5y ago
Hey, creator of Fornjot here. Fornjot is written in Rust, so starting with Rust as the modeling language was the most straight-forward option. I do agree that Rust is not ideal for this use case. Fornjot is architected to be language-agnost
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hannobraun
5y ago
I agree that a geometric constraint solver is very valuable. Having one built-in is a goal for Fornjot. We're not nearly there, though!
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hannobraun
5y ago
I've been reading Boundary Representation Modelling Techniques by Ian Stroud. Not the most approachable book, and I haven't read nearly all of it, but I already found it very valuable.
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hannobraun
5y ago
Hey, author of Fornjot here. > The modeling language for Fornjot is Rust. To me, this seems like an akward language to write models in. I fully agree! Given that Fornjot is written in Rust, starting with Rust as the modeling language was
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hannobraun
5y ago
Hey, author of Fornjot here. > I do wonder what kind of limitations the author ran into with OpenSCAD Lack of bevels/chamfers, no way to refer to existing geometry (to sketch something on a face and extrude that, for example), no co
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5y ago
Hey, author of Fornjot here. In addition to the article that agucova posted, OpenSCAD is also specifically called out in the FAQ: https://www.fornjot.app/faq/ Second question. (Sorry, there isn't a way to link to
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hannobraun
5y ago
Interesting, thanks for elaborating! I have had similar thoughts: Having a low-level representation that only makes sure that a geometric object you reference actually exists (and does other low-level validations), then have a wrapper aroun
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hannobraun
5y ago
Some of that documentation exists in the issue tracker. But that vision is something I refine as I learn more about use cases and the problem space. So it's not like I can just write down the ideal state right now :-)
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hannobraun
5y ago
Hey, author of Fornjot here. Could you give a bit more detail on what you mean by that? The plan for Fornjot is to use WebAssembly as the intermediate representation for models: https://github.com/hannobraun/Fornjot
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5y ago
Hey, author of Fornjot here. Chamfered edges are definitely planned! > edit: Models are defined as Rust code. > > Oh... Not sure how to interpret that "Oh.." :-) Rust is the only modeling language supported right now (gi
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hannobraun
5y ago
Fornjot is architected to be language-agnostic. Rust is just the easiest language to support, given that the rest of the project is written in it too. I (author of Fornjot) don't have any near-term plans to add support for other langua
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hannobraun
5y ago
Exactly. All a model does, is build a C-ABI-compatible data structure. And even though Rust is currently the only language supported, Fornjot is architected to be language-agnostic. I don't think Rust is the ideal language for this pro
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hannobraun
5y ago
Well, no. But it's what we currently have. As adamsvystun notes, I have to start somewhere. Making models more convenient to define is planned ( https://github.com/hannobraun/Fornjot/issues/72 ), support f
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hannobraun
5y ago
phkahler is probably referring to the milestone I'm currently working on: https://www.fornjot.app/blog/straight-edges-flat-faces-simpl... Curves (currently only full circles) are supported, but the focus is on bui
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Hey, author of Fornjot here. > Yes, I think he's being rather naive about that. Oh yes, definitely :-) Not in the sense that I think it's going to be easy, or anything like that. But I'm definitely (and consciously) focusi
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Hey, author of Fornjot here. Thank you for the encouraging words! > I do believe there is a commercial market for this to - a cheaper and easer to use kernal to build cad products on would be very welcome, I could see the potatial for co
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hannobraun
10y ago
It's not very far along, unfortunately. While my vision stayed intact over the course of the project, the specifics changed, and I've changed my approach a few times. Every time that happened it basically reset the progress. I
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