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*Alternative
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Imagine all the dirt on GOP email accounts
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You didn't mention sex selection in your previous posts. You said: "Labs can make sperm from stem cells, so there's really no need for us anymore." That statement is ambiguous. You could have been referring to how a post
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> As ever the perfect is the enemy of the good. A male-free society would be expected to have a much lower violence rate. How about we consider a different demographic group? It's well known that African-Americans are disproportiona
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I'll just leave this right here: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_... For the TL;DR crowd: "In asking 40,000 households about rape and sexual violence, the surve
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I was wrong to have brought up your personal political beliefs. I apologize for that. The arguments you are making, however, are dependent on the idea that markets are a necessary mechanism for the existence of the modern internet. You have
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Welp, maybe you shouldn't have commented on a political article then? I'm really not trolling you here. I'm reading everything you're writing. I suspect others will notice that it is you who have been ignoring me. This i
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I'm actually enjoying this conversation. That's why I've stuck around this long. To quote your last comment: "What they do instead is impose regulatory frameworks that forbid companies that could run gig fiber networks f
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You're right. They're prioritizing access over the financial concerns of the providers. That's what public utilities do. That's what we did when we electrified the South. That's why I keep pointing to your fundament
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I haven't asked you to do anything of the sort. I point out the NHS because I want you to explain why the internet is fundamentally different. You've done an excellent job explaining how the existing internet emerged. You've
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Yeah, they'll tell you their internet connection speed is shitty. Unless you live in Chattanooga, where the evil Department of Fiber Optics is busy oppressing them.
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The attitude that leads to you ridicule government provided services is exactly why I made my previous comment about your obvious political bias. It wasn't any more rude than the sarcasm that you're exhibiting here. Ask the Brits
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He's just better at dodging my questions than you are :). But please, keep erecting your straw man. The entire point of this is that the internet would be fundamentally different if it were democratically controlled. That does not mean
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That's not my argument. Publicly funded does not necessarily mean primarily academic. The market is not the only driver of public demand for goods and services. Streaming video is a fairly obvious innovation that benefits the general p
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How so?
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You're right, it's not. But it could have been.
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Government has been responsible for the largest undertakings in human history. Space flight, nuclear weaponry and energy, particle colliders, etc.
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Actually I was replying to your original comment before you edited. The idea that a publicly run internet would not have been able to produce the innovations necessary for Netflix is debatable and betrays a certain political persuasion on y
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Comparing the internet you have in 2016 to the internet that existed in the 1990's is a bit unfair, don't you think? The idea that only markets are capable of delivering innovations or necessary services to the public is debatab
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Ah, you're right. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. They abandoned NSFNET and declined to pass regulations regarding the new privately built infrastructure. That begs the question: if the government so successfully innovated i
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They inherited NSFNET, which emerged from ARPANET. It's in the article.
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Are you saying that this couldn't have been accomplished by a public utility? Or that these companies have produced better outcomes? We made the choice to hand over the existing backbone that took decades and billions of dollars to bui
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Your argument assumes it's not within their power to end this threat. In fact, the Senate proposed a bill that does just that [1]. There's nothing inherent to the current architecture that prevents the government from compelling c
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The U.S. government seems to have no trouble achieving its commercial and surveillance goals under the current architecture.
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That's correct. We don't enforce restrictions on political speech or deviant pornography, for the most part. But we do enforce intellectual property restrictions that largely benefit Western corporate interests.
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China and Russia are doing this largely to avoid Western cultural and political influence. Their choice to opt out does not necessarily imply that we're structuring our networks in the most just or efficient way.
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The Internet Should Be a Public Good
(jacobinmag.com)
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I'm from Chicago and learned to program at school in Chicago.
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Chicago consultancies won't pay you market rate either
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I'm a homegrown Chicago developer who moved to NYC last year and I haven't looked back.
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