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bentlegen
3y ago
The people we're concerned about are not the hundreds of thousands of Sentry users, including those that self-host. We're concerned about people who have taken the software for the purposes of competing directly against us, that h
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bentlegen
3y ago
I'm not a lawyer, but here's my non-official interpretation: 1) If you host the software, and say "hey get your Sentry over here", that's basically a substitute. 2) Means use the work in such a way where you expose
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bentlegen
3y ago
The source you link does not contain the quotes you cite.
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bentlegen
3y ago
There are many people who use the software, for free, to monitor their own non-competing software projects (it turns out that overwhelmingly most people aren't competing with Sentry). Some people choose to scratch their own itch and co
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bentlegen
3y ago
> My interpretation of this license is that it's effectively saying: "you can't do anything with this while we're working on it". I disagree. It depends if you're forking it to use it, or if you're fork
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bentlegen
3y ago
> Also, we can now say that Sentry is a proprietary software The article explains that Sentry was licensed under a non-OSI license (the BUSL) for the last 4+ years. That license had more onerous terms than what it uses today. So if you b
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bentlegen
3y ago
There have been a few cases where other businesses have taken Sentry code to directly compete with Sentry.io (the SaaS business). For example, at one point somebody operated sentry.otherdomain, reselling the service commercially as-is. In a
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bentlegen
3y ago
The license for that version is irrevocable. It doesn’t mean I couldn’t publish a newer version with a different license, if I am the copyright holder. The existence of a newer version with a different license does not revoke your ability t
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bentlegen
3y ago
You can host and use Sentry internally yourself, for free, right now (the latest version). Lots of people do. What you can’t do is leverage that source to compete against its authors, e.g. launch a competing monitoring service. (Please cons
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bentlegen
3y ago
I’m not a lawyer, but AFAIK, they can’t relicense any permissive versions that are already out there. They could choose to relicense future versions (i.e. they could stop future versions from becoming permissive, after 2 years). And if they
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bentlegen
3y ago
Your blog post seems to focus on the “bolted on” aspects of the BUSL in negative terms, so I’m curious why this license (FSL), which removes the ability to add custom terms, would serve to cause more confusion.
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bentlegen
3y ago
FWIW it is simpler because BUSL source can change to any license (including copyleft), whereas FSL can only change into MIT or Apache 2.0. So it goes from N possibilities to 2. > Is there any functional difference between apache and MIT?
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bentlegen
3y ago
I feel the article is pretty clear that it is attempting to improve the BUSL. 1) It’s a license without any variable substitution (as the BUSL has). 2) It also has a firm change date to Apache 2.0 or MIT after 2 years (the BUSL default is 4
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bentlegen
3y ago
It's not intentional. We actually held back more complicated features for years to make it easy to self-host (e.g. only used Postgres and Redis as data stores for a long time). The complication really just comes from the new capabiliti
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bentlegen
3y ago
React is a general purpose web framework, and is routinely used to do more than serving static documents. I would argue it was never even designed (originally) for that use case. And yet because it can, we have to have this tiring endless d
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bentlegen
3y ago
Well, for starters Ontario’s provincial government (the Progressive Conservatives led by Doug Ford) just handed an estimated $8b in “free” value to developers that owned previously-non-developable protected land on Ontario’s Greenbelt. Conv
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bentlegen
3y ago
At one point Sentry was packaged with GitLab and bundled as a capability/extension of the GitLab suite of products (see "Error Tracking"): https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/3970
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bentlegen
3y ago
Google was not the first search engine, nor the 6th.
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bentlegen
3y ago
I disagree and here’s an example I would use. In the 20+ years Google has dominated search, who has come along and iterated a “better” version? Bing? Is the capital and scope required not approachable, as you suggest? Similarly, since Tesla
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bentlegen
3y ago
By that logic, why couldn’t someone have done the same with electric cars and rockets? Were we never going to go into space again? Did the Nissan Leaf not already exist?
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bentlegen
3y ago
PageRank was developed in 1998. I assure you Google did not immediately come out and crush search. Altavista, Yahoo, and Lycos might have all been bigger properties during 1999.
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bentlegen
3y ago
Sergey Brin and Larry Page: Google (made near-infinite knowledge reachable), Chrome/Chromium, GMail, YouTube, Android (powers billions of handsets), Google Maps … If you credit Musk directly for all the aforementioned things, why not t
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bentlegen
3y ago
Basically folks have bought into conservative propaganda that white collar journalists are somehow equally “elite” as the ruling owner class.
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bentlegen
3y ago
That linked report says that 84% of Software Engineering Waterloo grads, from the class 2020, intended or desired to move to the US (it's unclear if they actually did -- the poll was completed June 2020).[1] A very important detail
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bentlegen
3y ago
Do you have any evidence suggesting record numbers? Canada's official numbers do show that Q3 2022 was a record high for emigration (16.5k -- Q3 2018 was 15.5k), but other recent quarters (Q4 2022, Q1 2023, etc) are still lower than pr
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bentlegen
3y ago
I just clicked through that link you provided (jobbank.gc.ca) and there's nothing that says florists need "1k hours" of training. It's unclear that they even need to be licensed at all. I also Googled for "license q
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bentlegen
3y ago
What about parsing and tokenizing the code for code search?
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bentlegen
3y ago
IMO the simple problem here is that people are being paid for their time, not their output. Sure, the output is what is valued, but folks are paid for their time via an annual salary. In part, this is because it’s too challenging to value a
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bentlegen
3y ago
If you are the majority shareholder and that never changes, then sure. The parent comment said “every single person in adtech is complicit”. Most employees do not possess that level of agency about what happens to their work.
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bentlegen
3y ago
You don’t even have to work explicitly in adtech. I was an early employee at Disqus (YC S07). I helped build its 3rd party commenting plugin, because I had a blog and believed in distributed discussion. I genuinely believe the company did t
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