Kialo

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by Kialo 8y ago
If you want to see the full functionality, create a private debate (you'll then have admin rights) and play around in it, incl voting, moving, linking, extracting, copy branching, intermap linking, perspectives, suggesting claims and 5
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by Kialo 8y ago
Sure, just click on it and then click on the red + and add your con.
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by Kialo 8y ago
Firefox?
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by Kialo 8y ago
You can't and we aren't. What is considered rational, is often cultural and builds on very different epistemological systems. Thus all you can do in a collaborative reasoning platform like ours, is give everybody the tools to port
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by Kialo 8y ago
Could you give some examples of the hidden biases introduced by the theses? I presume you don't mean the way the theses are written, as in for or against the motion, instead of as a question?
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by Kialo 8y ago
How would you apply it in our context?
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by Kialo 8y ago
Agreed. It seems that the single biggest divider are epistemological systems and the ways people choose which to adhere to. That's a debate which I couldn't convince anyone to start yet.
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by Kialo 8y ago
Thanks!
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by Kialo 8y ago
Good news everyone...we found a way to monetize :) (Agreed, though you'd probably want demographic data with that, which we deliberately don't have. The best we do have are our follower audience analytics on T / FB. We are ha
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by Kialo 8y ago
In a multi thesis discussion ( https://www.kialo.com/2027 ) you can propose different theses. The problem with evolving theses is that they invalidate a huge amount of claims and require many claims to be edited. Threads, whe
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by Kialo 8y ago
We had filters already, but removed them about 2y ago... The hordes would have been an issue, just coming in and downvoting claims that they disagree with. When we switch from the all votes average, we might introduce them again. For indivi
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by Kialo 8y ago
Agreed. It's one of our main issues, we are effectively three startups: 1 public discussions / repository of the why / community 2 free edtech solution 3 SAAS for decision-making, -preparation, ideation... We have for now foc
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by Kialo 8y ago
...fortunately, we have got a tool for that ;)
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by Kialo 8y ago
We might add another color scheme, exactly for those cases. But the colors, other than for the sunburst in the beginning, aren't really essential (that's at least what our color blind team members tell us) as pros and cons are alw
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by Kialo 8y ago
I fear that's too easy to game at our scale, given the horde out there.
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by Kialo 8y ago
Agreed. We have a "reputation system" it's the thank count next to usernames. We have not handed out any privileges based on those yet, but will probably soon take all with a certain thank count, look at their contributions a
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by Kialo 8y ago
What was it called? We are building this since 2011.
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by Kialo 8y ago
If it shows you linking, then link it. (that means you should have permissions to do so) In discussions where you do not have editor rights, click "view in new tab" copy the url and suggest a claim with text "suggest linking
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by Kialo 8y ago
We don't do anything with the data. We'll probably provide the public discussion corpus anonymized to researchers. It's all too sensitive and some users cannot be dissuaded from using real names. :(
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by Kialo 8y ago
You couldn't just let it go...next up emacs vs vi? :) At least we have a >1k claims Star Wars The Last Jedi ( https://www.kialo.com/7055 ) and Rebel alliance would defeat the United Federation ( https://www.
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by Kialo 8y ago
Regarding democratizing, the problem are the troll hordes out there. One person with many followers tweets out a particular claim and then you'll have the strangest things suddenly appearing at the top. It's the same reason Intern
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by Kialo 8y ago
Argh. And support all of them on all platforms, the dev team will shoot me. :)
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by Kialo 8y ago
If anyone wants to try out teams (private portal for team discussions etc), please drop us a mail to support@ and we'll enable your account, reference HN. It's been used in organizational contexts for decision-making, -preparation
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by Kialo 8y ago
We thought that green = pro and red = con, is kind of universally agreed upon, no? The most common misunderstanding is the one mentioned before, a con to a con, indirectly supports the thesis, but is red. But changing that around is even mo
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by Kialo 8y ago
Well unfortunately, in the large debates, really many duplicates are being submitted. Take the UBI one with close to 3k unique claims. It's really hard to suggest claims that aren't already in there. If you have specific examples,
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by Kialo 8y ago
Ni afable konsentas :)
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by Kialo 8y ago
Not sure, what would you want to see in Kialo for that? We and others have tried that. We gave experts a multi theses debate and let them discuss the various options (that's also what we do internally when having to decide things) and
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by Kialo 8y ago
We are waiting for IBM to unleash their Debate AI on us :)
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by Kialo 8y ago
That was a tongue-in-cheek example that many ( https://developers.google.com/search/docs/data-types/factche... ) considered to be lighthearted, uncontroversial and settled. In case you wonder, we agree with thi
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by Kialo 8y ago
Well, at least we tell people to vote the claims "impacts" not likability. We haven't yet researched how well this works, but anecdotal evidence suggests that it does have some impact. The heart, is just a thanks to the origi

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