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We thought that green = pro and red = con, is kind of universally agreed upon, no? The most common misunderstanding is the one mentioned before, a con to a con

by Kialo 8y ago

We thought that green = pro and red = con, is kind of universally agreed upon, no? The most common misunderstanding is the one mentioned before, a con to a con, indirectly supports the thesis, but is red. But changing that around is even more confusing. Especially when the parent to that con is then used as a pro somewhere else (and the con now having to be labeled red again). We consider pros and cons always to be relating to the parent directly above them. This allows them to be linked or copied between debates, irrespective of what debate they originally were a part of.

Baeocystin 8y ago
It's also a color shift that ~1 out of 20 people don't perceive. (~8% men, ~0.5% women). Red is close to a universal color for alert/danger/warning, but green much less so for the pro. Something to consider, at least.
- Kialo 8y ago
  We might add another color scheme, exactly for those cases. But the colors, other than for the sunburst in the beginning, aren't really essential (that's at least what our color blind team members tell us) as pros and cons are always on a particular side. We finished read and navigation accessibility (screenreaders) last month, if anyone knows a great company for testing this, please let us know.
aidos 8y ago
I'm sure your team have given it a lot more thought than my drive-by assessment but a mobile constraint seems the wrong reasoning to use less clear wording. I'm sure it's something you get used to, but for me personally it jars quite heavily. So to clarify, the below is in the wrong section, right? Even if it was under cons, as I believe it should be, the X cons Y wording doesn't feel natural to me. https://www.kialo.com/macos-and-windows-should-sandbox-all-apps-16655/16655.0=16655.1-16655.9 https://www.kialo.com/macos-and-windows-should-sandbox-all-a... For posterity: >>> Getting asked for permissions by various apps (can I access the camera, can I read you photos, can I send you notifications, can I get your location, etc...) is annoying. >>> Pros: Mobile users seem to be okay with getting asked for permissions on demand, why would desktop users be any different? As an aside, how do I copy anything without having to trawl through the DOM or click the tweet button!?
- Kialo 8y ago
  "Mobile users seem to be okay with getting asked for permissions on demand, why would desktop users be any different?" Should be a con, not a pro, as it weakens the claim above. Just drag it to the other side.

by Kialo 8y ago

Baeocystin 8y ago

It's also a color shift that ~1 out of 20 people don't perceive. (~8% men, ~0.5% women). Red is close to a universal color for alert/danger/warning, but green much less so for the pro. Something to consider, at least.

Kialo 8y ago
We might add another color scheme, exactly for those cases. But the colors, other than for the sunburst in the beginning, aren't really essential (that's at least what our color blind team members tell us) as pros and cons are always on a particular side. We finished read and navigation accessibility (screenreaders) last month, if anyone knows a great company for testing this, please let us know.

aidos 8y ago

I'm sure your team have given it a lot more thought than my drive-by assessment but a mobile constraint seems the wrong reasoning to use less clear wording. I'm sure it's something you get used to, but for me personally it jars quite heavily. So to clarify, the below is in the wrong section, right? Even if it was under cons, as I believe it should be, the X cons Y wording doesn't feel natural to me. https://www.kialo.com/macos-and-windows-should-sandbox-all-apps-16655/16655.0=16655.1-16655.9 https://www.kialo.com/macos-and-windows-should-sandbox-all-a... For posterity: >>> Getting asked for permissions by various apps (can I access the camera, can I read you photos, can I send you notifications, can I get your location, etc...) is annoying. >>> Pros: Mobile users seem to be okay with getting asked for permissions on demand, why would desktop users be any different? As an aside, how do I copy anything without having to trawl through the DOM or click the tweet button!?

Kialo 8y ago
"Mobile users seem to be okay with getting asked for permissions on demand, why would desktop users be any different?" Should be a con, not a pro, as it weakens the claim above. Just drag it to the other side.