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Regarding democratizing, the problem are the troll hordes out there. One person with many followers tweets out a particular claim and then you'll have the stran

by Kialo 8y ago

Regarding democratizing, the problem are the troll hordes out there. One person with many followers tweets out a particular claim and then you'll have the strangest things suddenly appearing at the top. It's the same reason Internet polls don't really work. And the reason we consider the default perspective ALL votes, problematic (we are building something here soon). This is especially a problem due to our topics, primarily very controversal issues. These are the type of topics that very often get edit-locked on Wikipedia because of edit wars and we deal exlusively with them. That's why we built the suggestion system (https://support.kialo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003791445-Suggesting-Claims https://support.kialo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003791445-Sug...) and 5 permission levels (https://support.kialo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003877705-Participant-Rights-and-Roles https://support.kialo.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003877705-Par...). Suggested claims that were not accepted, aren't deleted. users often argue back and forth with admins on those claims, often edit them and then get them accepted. Very often it's really just a clarification or "could you please add sources" or "do you mind moving this claim over there". Duplicates are thornier. What we have considered, is linking them to the ones that they supposedly are duplicates of, so you could see them there. That's possible and we might do it, but we really don't get that many complaints about them. It's really just a problem in the debates with >1k claims. but as more debates grow, this might become more of an issue and then we'll build that. Thanks for your input.

acover 8y ago
Thanks, it's interesting to learn what is a practical problem when growing a discussion website. Is it possible to deter troll behavior by using a reputation system and investigating bad behavior? Reputation that takes a long time of good behavior to build but a single act of malice to destroy. It also has the statistical beauty of adding a prior probability estimate to the likelihood estimate that sorts Reddit comments.
- Kialo 8y ago
  Agreed. We have a "reputation system" it's the thank count next to usernames. We have not handed out any privileges based on those yet, but will probably soon take all with a certain thank count, look at their contributions and grant them some poweruser rights, e.g. commenting into all public debates and see how that goes.

by Kialo 8y ago

acover 8y ago

Thanks, it's interesting to learn what is a practical problem when growing a discussion website. Is it possible to deter troll behavior by using a reputation system and investigating bad behavior? Reputation that takes a long time of good behavior to build but a single act of malice to destroy. It also has the statistical beauty of adding a prior probability estimate to the likelihood estimate that sorts Reddit comments.

Kialo 8y ago
Agreed. We have a "reputation system" it's the thank count next to usernames. We have not handed out any privileges based on those yet, but will probably soon take all with a certain thank count, look at their contributions and grant them some poweruser rights, e.g. commenting into all public debates and see how that goes.