IllogicalLogic

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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
IP theft aside, anti-Chinese propoganda goes back 200 years in the US and UK. Is this question about proof a joke?
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
We can dance around the idea of ethics or we can actually look at historical actions taken by both. Putting the Chinese & US government interventionism on the same plain for objective ethics judgements is a joke (regardless of whos cult
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Are they though? Did the Chinese government spend the last century toppling democratically elected governments and subjecting the populations to the horrors that followed purely for economic gain? I guess not.
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
You need a history lesson (most Americans do) The Coming War on China (2016) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rTVwLNhojI
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
>"Its a good point, if you overlook the fact that the British destroying the Indian & Chinese economy" I only mentioned Britain because I followed it by compounding China and India. If we are only talking China specifically
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
None of the countries you mention sustained a multi-century attack by foreign powers... most endured less than a decade of attacks due to either being an ally/ or racially similar (lets not forget how racist we Europeans were, gladly m
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Economic history has less incentive to lie and it's hard to retroactively change 100 years of accounting/trade history to maintain a fake national narrative. Remember in international trade, atleast 3 seperate entities end up with
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Japan did alot of damage at the latter end of the Qing Dynasty too, yes (same time as peak opium epedemic/imports). What followed a decade after was very telling though (I will skip the Boxer Rebellion but worth reading up on).... Boxe
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
I generally use England interchangeably with Britian for Opium War related statements, because the main actors (and beneficiaries) at the end of the day were English, not Irish, not Australian, etc... down the list. Germans werent huge Opiu
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
In modern competitive markets, regaining economic dominance (without the sword) will take time, yes. Can't actively attack people for 150 years+ (Chinese, see Imperial Cruise, Secret Japan Treaty of 1905) and expect them to, through pe
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
So western power invading and enslaving China's major trading partners and drugging their population had 0 negative economic effect? It seems the history books you have been exposed to detail a narrative that economic/trade flow h
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Your timeline is a little off. The Qing dynasty decline was partly to blame but be sure that almost 1/4 of Chinese young adults under the age 25 being addicted to illegal opium (thanks to western traders) didn't help. If you think
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
>"Also, can you clarify what you mean by “attacked their >population”?" The opium epedemic and wars drove the Chinese economy into the ground. British invasion and colonization of India pushed one of the top trading nations
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Trump is actively setting trade/economic policy considering 18-19th century history (economic history more specifically). Remember the Opium Wars and the families it made rich (most famous, Coolidge (descendants of Thomas Jefferson), R
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
England, France and the US have vested interests in China not growing, atleast a very powerful minority do. Opening markets when these foreign actors very recently attacked your population is basically suicide. Open markets require a certai
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Its a good point, if you overlook the fact that the British destroying the Indian & Chinese economy (through war/invasion) created a vacuum for the US economy (British colony at the time) to flourish. So the US closing up trade at
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
True, people in the west expect every country is ready for free markets and freedom of speech from the get go...nope. Requires a certain level of development before freedom should be introduced. Especially post colonization, where colonial
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
India hasn't missed anything, India rising is just beginning. Training abroad and repatraiting talent is quite common sense in the grand scheme of things.
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
So, we just default to all data being siphoned into the US so it has a monopoly on PII (personal identifiable information)...? Seriously, no way any asian country should trust foreign countries, that very recently invaded/enslaved them
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Market forces will ensure a bitcoin exodus until central bankers stop acting like mental patients with unlimited printer ink cartridges. The Bretton Woods System ended under Nixon to prop up the military ambitions of this nation, bad move u
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Always interesting when a 300,000 year old species decides a 50+ million year old species doesn't need to exist anymore. Tell me more ecologists...grabs popcorn.
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
That mosquito species probably spent more time in Cali than humans have spent on this planet... Let's be a bit more open/honest about the bigger (4 billion year) picture here.
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Problem with nature, it does "unlikely" at a frequency we chronically underestimate.
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Strong suspicion every member of the ecosystem plays a role in sustaining the ecosystem. Mosquitos are still the deadliest animal as far as humans are concerned, makes me wonder what other populations they are keeping under control.... Ecol
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
Quite the contrary, colonizing all of Africa, South America, India, and drugging China (at about the same time) did a lot to boost GDP... Industrial revolution works even better if all prevailing exporters all of a sudden fall off a cliff.
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
The secret treaty between President Roosevelt (relation of the leading drug pushers) and Japan, giving the Japanese permission to invade Korea/China in 1905 didn't help either. Many historians believe reversal of this treaty cause
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by IllogicalLogic 8y ago
The correlation of the rise of Europe/US and the decline of China/India (55% of world gdp at the time) is directly tied to a massive amount of illegal drugs pumped by US/England/France into China for a 100 year period. T