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Crysstalis
4y ago
I do not believe NixOS or Guix are shipping these packages with a sandbox that uses the portals, but I could be wrong. I am not sure of anything about Snap, I have never used it. In Flatpak, all the config files are saved to ~/.var
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I do not understand what you are disagreeing with. Not every project is aimed at power users and tinkerers. You seem to be suggesting that they all should be, that is not realistic. If you feel talked down to, please consider that you may n
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Surely you can see that those are a very small subset of the software available in the world, and most software is not like that. It is not "user-is-an-idiot philosophy" to have developers actually do their job, which is to make t
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>Gnome has pissed a lot of people off, and this is the end result. I mean I think it's pretty reasonable for people to have ill will towards the project and I think that politely interjecting with the occasional "we don't
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I wish they would drop and add some features too, but unfortunately no one can please everyone...
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No, I do not work for Red Hat and I have never worked for Red Hat. I am just a person who uses GNOME and systemd, and while I do have my own complaints about them, I have enough experience to respond to most of the common complaints. Are yo
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I am not sure what you are asking, other than asking for me to repeat myself. I gave the reason why Flatpak is the only option here.
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The closest thing to a solution is to blame the distros for shipping the apps incorrectly and encouraging users to do unsupported things like combining several apps from several different desktops together without testing them, when this ha
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The environment variable was disabled because of a bug report on reddit that it was causing other issues: https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/vhij0o/gtk_use_porta... In this case, the arch wiki was a
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Adding more and more confusing options is generally what is seen as being anti-user. If you really care about this, it is trivial to use a different file manager with GNOME. It is not going to be useful to keep insisting that designers capi
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>If they hate it, they can stop. Work on a project that has a higher proportion of praise if they need to. Work on proprietary stuff. Please stop, this is gatekeeping. What is even the point of open source if we are going to insist that
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No, see this twitter thread for what happens when you leave everything to user choice: https://twitter.com/jasonlong/status/1549857059495084032 In general, it is better to leave nothing to user choice, if you can
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Please see my above comment for why it is wildly incorrect to describe the removal of features as "user-hostile": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32205125 In general, going to developers with a list of demand
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It is not a "user-hostile attitude" to remove features. Every project that does some kind of user study will do this eventually, because: 1. Not every feature is equally useful 2. No one is using the feature, and so maintaining it
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That is unrelated to the issue. Developing any OS is not easy and takes expert work and a lot of time. No one ever said it was going to be easy. There is no choice that frees you from doing that work. The "choice" is entirely abou
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>when done with rigor, a flame war is a dense information exchange. I can't agree, I have never felt that comments like "person A is an idiot" have any information in them. I have been on the receiving end of plenty of tho
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>Not in the systemd sense of putting its fingers into everything. It is unclear what this "putting its fingers" actually means besides "implementing features that other projects then want to use". Is openssl "put
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>Systemd went against the whole philosophy of linux. The philosophy is to be able to choose which software you use. No, this is wrong in two ways. First, that is not the Linux philosophy. According to Mr. Torvalds, the Linux philosophy i
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>On the other hand, this doesn't mirror my experience in the mailing lists, incl. debian-devel, which is one of the heaviest mailing lists I have ever participated, You may be filtering them, because I have seen a ton of flamewars o
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>I don't understand the purpose of this semantics discussion >Whether you want to call it a sound server or not is irrelevant since it fulfilled the same role and had the same features as other sound servers of the era. This is n
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>The mailing lists I read also had the same echo chambers of finger pointing and blaming. That sounds about the same as every open source mailing list I have ever seen, like every single day on lkml. If you have a question about document
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>Do note that dmix runs in user-space like any other sound server. Dmix is explicitly not a sound server, it is a plugin implemented in the alsa library that does "cooperative" mixing of the sound in an shm region. Adding all
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>and is, effectively, a fiat to use Wayland if you want to continue using newer versions of GNOME. Ok, I get what you're saying, but this is not different from looking at GNOME 2 (which only ran on X11) and saying they declared a fi
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>You're not wrong about control of Gtk No, the parent comment is wrong. There is no "vertical integration" or control. It's just an open source project. If anyone was interested in maintaining the X11 support, it woul
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>but ALSA's userspace/plugin one (dmix) was definitely not abandoned and not stagnating. It was actually growing, and the advice then was to target ALSA API directly, not a specific sound server. The same advice is still valid
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>though it's possible the author of the article was wrong or was misquoting someone. Yes, they were, that is the opposite of what actually happened. The real rationale is explained in the libadwaita release announcement: https:
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>It's the old "but I can't do screenshots or screen sharing" again. I don't know what this refers to. The screenshots and screensharing are done through the xdg portal and pipewire. That's as "standard&
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>See also the first snobby, then underhanded, then petulant behavior This just corporate open source as a whole. I don't know what else he expected. You don't participate in open source with the big boys if you expect a quick r
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Then you may have also missed the various responses to those criticisms and things that were done to address them.
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>but PA was just yet another sound server in a world that was already full of them and didn't really bring anything to the table I seem to remember that the main thing it did was bring "being maintained" to the table, beca
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