>It's the old "but I can't do screenshots or screen sharing" again. I don't know what this refers to. The screenshots and screensharing are done through the xd

>It's the old "but I can't do screenshots or screen sharing" again. I don't know what this refers to. The screenshots and screensharing are done through the xdg portal and pipewire. That's as "standard" as something across desktops can be, but like I said it just is done in a separate library/daemon rather than being in wayland upstream. You don't need to really implement anything in your window manager of choice if you already have support for those, you just use pipewire. They all agree on it. The implementations haven't ignored this, you're telling me I didn't get to the right conclusion but your conclusion is to just keep barking up the wrong tree and hope they change their mind, when they have even less incentive to do that now because the feature is already implemented elsewhere in a much better way. >but not even the people who have been tinkering with their Linux boxes for 20 years seem enthusiastic about wayland I don't consider this to be a problem. The tinkerers get most excited when you hand them something with a giant config file (e.g. xorg.conf) with every option under the sun that they can tweak and watch it fall apart. Most upstream maintainers I've talked to would very much like to get rid of these giant config files because they are completely untestable and unmaintainable. The tinkerers cannot have their cake and eat it too.