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The blocks for MojeekBot, as Cloudflare verified and respectful bot for 20 years, started before the robots.txt file changes. We first noticed in early June. We thought it was an oversight too at first. It usually is. Large publishers have
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Kagi pays to use APIs from Mojeek and Google
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Kagi uses at least Google and Mojeek edit: > Realistically, there are only 2 search engines now. https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-...
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Person extensively quoted in the article here. They are welcome to reach out. But not a single person from any level did that, nor replied to my polite requests to explain and engage. We first contacted them in early June and by 13th June,
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Information neutrality is preferred to unbiased (which we used in 2018) but a bit of a mouthful and not widely understood. For more recent and nuanced views on this key topic see: https://blog.mojeek.com/2022/05/fr
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With no ties, direct AND indirect, that does make Ladybird uncommon, like Pale Moon. Our own approach to privacy is as radical as it gets in search: "No Tracking, Just Search". As we often say: tracking, not ads, is the fundamenta
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This is a welcome initiative speaking from a personal and professional perspective, and as CEO of an independent search engine; we are all too well aware of the power of money and defaults. This immediately comes to mind as akin to the Sign
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Congratulations to Vlad and the whole team. They are showing how a patient building of product and customer base can succeed, where a VC backed approach for a similar business model and product did not sustain. RIP Neeva. We are delighted t
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As proved by Mojeek; a full web scale international search engine built from the ground up with £3 million in funding, and no dependencies. Admittedly longer than a couple of years; 5 years as a hobby project, 10 years building, and more re
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Bing outage shows just how little competition Google search has
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https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-...
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Without opt out it would be a no go, so that's great to hear. What's the downside of opting out?
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Another option is to use multiple sources. For example Kagi who use Mojeek (self-disclosure) and others; "Our search results also include anonymized API calls to all major search result providers worldwide"
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Mojeek, fully independent index. self-disclosure: CEO
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It's not just that. LLMs by compressing knowledge, and providing one answer [0], demote diversity. Search engines demote diversity but you can still get to many viewpoints; if you are willing to do the work to tweak your query, or go p
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thanks. tried everything I can think of, still no luck, run out of ideas. If Anthropic want some business they can get in touch. For Claude direct, at least until then, I'll carry on using you on Poe for chat. Will go elsewhere for API
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And without a mobile number. What is it with these US AI companies requiring mobile numbers?
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Code verification failure on UK mobile number. So is it a EU launch not Europe?
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4. Default search on Chrome, Android... 5. Default deals with Apple, Samsung...
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> My impression was that it essentially does a web search and then uses an LLM to summarize the top few results. Yes that's a good short summary. More details on how we do it here: https://blog.mojeek.com/2024/0
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Not the whole web; LinkedIn and a few others block us and we fully respect robots.txt, but we have ~8 billion pages. edit: from article, "Doing this for a few urls is easy but doing it for billions of urls starts to get tricky and expe
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Kagi uses the Mojeek API as one of it's main sources.
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> There is no such thing as an "unbiased" ranking, just like there's no such thing as "unbiased" journalism. Correct. But you can use techniques, to reduce bias. And not use others, notably tracking, so eliminati
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We can run contextual ads, and have API customers: https://www.mojeek.com/services/search/web-search-api/
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https://www.mojeek.com/ self-disclosure, mojeek team member
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Kagi uses the Mojeek API.
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Bing Chat will now become Copilot
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Or perhaps not. You may note that yesterday Head of Engineering and Product for Bing said [0]: "Many people ask me whether LLMs will make web search engines less valuable, but the opposite is actually the case. LLMs make web search mor
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"The money generated by the Google deal was a key reason why Apple declined acquiring Bing, according to the people" .... "with knowledge of the matter" At current P/E and an estimated $18bn the deal is worth half a
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For one thing mainstream media is exempt from the bill. It has been there, just not directly. Always ask yourself; what is the deeper unstated reasons why a story is being covered widely by mainstream media?
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