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by 0ct4via 4y ago
No, my original point is there, you picking and choosing what you respond to is on you, sweetie. Unlike @engineer_22 above, I don't edit or delete. His push was surgeries happening on kids without consent, including lacklustre attempts
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
You appear to be confusing anorectic people (those with anorexia) with anorectic drugs (appetite suppressants.) Anorectic people (those with anorexia) frequently are underweight, and are hyper-focussed on concerns regarding weight gain, so
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
"We" could, if you stopped assuming and being dishonest... but you do you. Maybe don't say "we" when you are only talking about yourself next time.
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Why assume the feeling can be dealt with by discussion? This isn't a new concept, trans people have existed throughout history -- and a tremendous amount of gender-based research and history was destroyed by the Nazis when they burned
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Intersex children isn't a "red herring" at all, they fall under the trans umbrella. They're given a binary gender identity at birth, based on genital configuration. If their genitals aren't "standard" inni
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
The discussion was about it being done without consent. Context matters. Going "for whatever reasons" is entirely dismissive and totally reductive -- the reasons are extremely relevant. Case in point, how do you know those weren
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
How so? "Are you saying the cause of their suffering isn't being forced to live in a body/identity contrary to how they feel?" That's literally pointing out the cause of suffering is being forced to live in a body
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
It's not my job to convince you of anything, random newcomer. Given intersectional feminism is much larger than TERFdom, you might want to consider it as "aligning with those of a minority of [so-called] feminists." Where are
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Is there no room for referring to trans children with a modicum of respect? "Sick puppies" is condescension and mockery, not levity -- but as you continue to not engage in good faith, it seems you're clearly aware of that. Th
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
I can, but given you've gone off half-cocked making various ridiculous claims, eventually admitting once you were wrong, and making personal attacks and accusations you delete, I'm not sure I should be wasting time trying to edu
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
So a minority of cases with a pre-existing DX, that'll be happening with both child and parental consent. What's your point? The commenter was disingenuously implying that surgeries were being performed on children without consent
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
I said seems, not was. Reading it as appearing in a similar way to the "religious Conservative pearl-clutching" rhetoric is drawing a similarity, not making an absolute declaration. It's neither assuming nor accusing when the
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Not really, people of color can still spout racist views, being trans doesn't preclude the ability to be transphobic. Would you be so fascinated to read the insight of trans people who are capable of not conflating sex and gender? Hayt
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
I'm aware it is a colloquialism -- could you at least try not being so condescending? You're absolutely being disingenuous, and the comment was derogatory and inappropriate regardless of how colloquial you may choose to see it a
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
I'd be curious as to what your views are, since you so eloquently wrote your previous lines, but then basically refused to share your own views. I wouldn't necessary recomment ContraPoints as a "calm, nuanced discussion"
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Well said. Additional to your point, obviously certain consent is required (in legal and medical frameworks) from parents, or physicians in certain situations -- @engineer_22 doesn't seem to want to acknowledge this, however. Indeed, s
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Actually, not perceived. Temporary blocking doesn't change anything -- it /postpones/ actual changes by puberty. Once again (I believe this is the fourth time you're having to be told this), NOBODY is performing trans-
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
I have -- you really should stop assuming, and stop making baseless accusations ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
* trans-exclusionary feminists, you mean. Plenty feminists are intersectional, TERFs are in the minority (and before someone claims it's a slur, a cis woman feminist came up with the term, to refer to the trans-exclusionary minority)
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
You can't talk about love and compassion when you refer to other human beings as "sick puppies." You're missing the point entirely, and you're /not engaging in good faith/.
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Drop the "Skippy" condescension, and read my original comment properly -- I bought up informed consent amount adults, I didn't say anything about children, because children aren't getting bottom surgery -- and for a thir
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Nah, I didn't brand the author anything of the sort -- I merely raised the point that the type to spout the anti-trans rhetoric in TFA, is often done by religious conservative types. Perhaps you should read more carefully, and not be s
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
The title is irrelevant, only one point in the article -- teaching creationism in science classes -- is relevant to secular humanism, which decries religious dogma, and supports separation of church and state. The rest is purely loaded opin
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Firstly, why would the relevance of those who don't wish to have a procedure, be relevant to the happiness of those who undergo it ? -- that makes the non-op group as irrelevant as J Random Person in the street, and it falls outside t
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"50.5% percent of patients who have been treated with these hormones reported suicidal ideation in the last 12 months" Have you considered whether that's prior to treatment, or early on, when the treatment had only just begun
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There's plenty of controversy and discussion on HN without politics... it's far from stale, even with clickbait transphobic articles appearing recently.
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What do you achieve by making that argument? I was literally referring to adults and bottom surgery, because * bottom surgery isn't being performed on children* . The problem is that you missed the point entirely.
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Precisely that. While it has a clear definition, by and large anyone using the term "woke" these days is dogwhistling, and using it as a slur. The fact that accusing you of caring about society and intersectional justice is suppos
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
Ignoring that the Sun is tabloid trash, nobody raises as many complaints when men sexually assault women or children, nor do they make the same complaints about the "risks" or "predators" when it comes to trans men -- th
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by 0ct4via 4y ago
"The current state of "gender affirming care" seems like a band-aid solution that papers over a much deeper problem, and I don't understand how we are helping trans people by turning a blind eye to the root cause of thei

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