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No, my original point is there, you picking and choosing what you respond to is on you, sweetie. Unlike @engineer_22 above, I don't edit or delete. His push w

No, my original point is there, you picking and choosing what you respond to is on you, sweetie. Unlike @engineer_22 above, I don't edit or delete. His push was surgeries happening on kids without consent, including lacklustre attempts to paste law without context or comprehension, which fails to give him any credit. The fact that you resort to personal attacks and puerile "you edit then I'll edit" nonsense shows how disingenuous you're being. Detransitioners are in the extreme minority, and there are no known cases of detransitioners who had surgery as a minor, regardless of consent. Stop creating boogeymen to try and further your baseless argument.

jl6 4y ago
> there are no known cases of detransitioners who had surgery as a minor, regardless of consent. Sadly that is also not true: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/we-are-just-guinea-pigs-women-describe-trauma-of-transitioning-as-teenagers https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/communi... Stepping back from this minutiae and back to the main article, your main issue is that you are pushing a position of far greater certainty and moral clarity than the facts warrant, and this is the general issue with trans activism. There is a huge middle-ground majority that would be so willing to support T as an adjunct to LGB - people you could rally so easily if you just dialled back from some of the more extreme demands. The dogmatic and polarized discourse that pushes out the sympathetic-but-insufficiently-compliant, smearing them as transphobes, is driving them into the arms of the right-wing genuine transphobes. This is also creating a chilling effect on research into gender dysphoria and its chemical and surgical treatments, all of which remain woefully understudied and poorly evidenced. Dysphoric individuals are of course the ones who are most harmed by this. As they say, do better.

jl6 4y ago

> there are no known cases of detransitioners who had surgery as a minor, regardless of consent. Sadly that is also not true: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/community-family/we-are-just-guinea-pigs-women-describe-trauma-of-transitioning-as-teenagers https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/communi... Stepping back from this minutiae and back to the main article, your main issue is that you are pushing a position of far greater certainty and moral clarity than the facts warrant, and this is the general issue with trans activism. There is a huge middle-ground majority that would be so willing to support T as an adjunct to LGB - people you could rally so easily if you just dialled back from some of the more extreme demands. The dogmatic and polarized discourse that pushes out the sympathetic-but-insufficiently-compliant, smearing them as transphobes, is driving them into the arms of the right-wing genuine transphobes. This is also creating a chilling effect on research into gender dysphoria and its chemical and surgical treatments, all of which remain woefully understudied and poorly evidenced. Dysphoric individuals are of course the ones who are most harmed by this. As they say, do better.