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National IPv6 launch day in Finland
- sandstrom 11y agoIt bothers me that AWS doesn't have usable IPv6 support (not in VPCs, unavailable for EC2 instances, not S3, missing from Route53, etc). I think there is a bunch of progressive companies running on AWS that would like to offer IPv6, but cannot.
- IgorPartola 11y agoI agree with you that it is very important that AWS offers it everywhere. However, I would say they do offer it "where it counts": their load balancer a are already dual stack and Route 53 ALIAS records support this directly too. Your clients can access you via IPv6 and that is huge.
- justincormack 11y agoBut not in S3, or on the CDN, for example.
- jnsaff2 11y agoTheir LoadBalancer is IPv6 only in EC2 Classic which is being deprecated.
- tsavola 11y agoWhen you create an AAAA alias record in Route 53 and point it to a VPC load balancer, it gives out an IPv6 address. It does only mention A record in the load balancer description's DNS Name field, so I don't know what to make of it.
- adevine 11y agoApparently Apple announced that once iOS 9 is released, all apps will be required to support ipv6. Given the large number of apps that use AWS as a backend, how will this be feasible?
- arbitrage 11y agoSupporting IPv6 doesn't necessarily mean IPv6 exclusively. Also, there's always tunneling. Hacky, but it might be the stick that is needed to whip people into actually using IPv6.
- mfenniak 11y agoThe app can support IPv6 while not actually using it for communication. This would be a matter of allowing people to enter IPv6 addresses, websites, e-mail addresses, etc; logging, and displaying IPv6 addresses rather than hard-coding IPv4-only approaches, etc. Basically, prepare your app so that if your backend supports IPv6, your app already does. It would be bigger news if iOS 9 required all apps to support not having access to IPv4.
- sp332 11y agoThere's really no point having IPv6 if you still require IPv4. It's a natural middle step, but you're still burning an IPv4 address.
- simon_vetter 11y agoOn the contrary, there are advantages in having your apps/clients support ipv6 even if your backend is not ready to offer v6 connectivity: 1) your app/client will work just fine on ipv6-only networks with NAT64 gateways, making for a better experience for your customers (less breakage on such networks) and will help network operators transitioning to v6, 2) if it does any kind of p2p (think rtp, webrtc, bittorrent, sip, etc.), it will take advantage of nat-free v6 paths for client to client communications, regardless of which address family it uses to talk to the backend.
- dspillett 11y ago
- stevekemp 11y agoRoute53 has IPv6 support in the sense that you can get/set AAAA records. It doesn't have it in the sense that their namesrvers are IPv4 only. That's my biggest annoyance with route53. (I wrap route53 with tinydns + git to provide DNS with flat pricing and good reliability - http://dns-api.com/ http://dns-api.com/ )
- toyg 11y agoThat's a great idea. I hope other countries follow suit. We need this sort of arbitrary "catalyst events" to sanction migrations, even just at the psychological and political level.
- mauricemir 11y agoWhat would have been better is 20-25 years ago take ipv6 out back and shoot it and tel the IETF to go back to the drawing board and come up with one tat had a better migration plan
- justincormack 11y agoI like the idea that if you participate you have to leave ipv6 turned on after. These one off days before have just ended and most people turned it off. Github please add ipv6 support...
- rwmj 11y agoAnd HN too: $ host news.ycombinator.com news.ycombinator.com is an alias for news.ycombinator.com.cdn.cloudflare.net. news.ycombinator.com.cdn.cloudflare.net has address 198.41.191.47 news.ycombinator.com.cdn.cloudflare.net has address 198.41.190.47
- justincormack 11y agoYes thats odd as you can just turn on ipv6 support with cloudflare.
- IgorPartola 11y agoThe only holdback nowadays is typically your application code not being ready to deal with IPv6. It is possible that HN doesn't yet handle features such as no procrastination for IPv6 addresses.
- justincormack 11y agoCloudflare even have a "pseudo IPv4" option for dumb software https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/202494830-Pseudo-IPv4-Supporting-IPv6-addresses-in-legacy-IPv4-applications https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/202494830-P...
- eterm 11y agonoprocrast is done through user/cookies, I have it enabled but will sometimes switch into a logged out browser to continue reading.
- nodata 11y agoDo you have a paid github account? Please ask for ipv6 support https://github.com/contact https://github.com/contact
- 746F7475 11y agoWell, at least I don't yet have IPv6 working. Might be because this isn't mandatory and my ISP (largest in Finland) just doesn't care or because I'm using 4G since they can't figure out how to get a working fiber connection to me (it works for few hours and then cuts of for 30-90 minutes).
- anewhnaccount 11y agoHere also. It's a Saunalahti/Elisa 3G+ dongle. Nothing. It looks like the seminar is streaming online: http://areena.yle.fi/tv/suorat/yle-areena/1-2779136 http://areena.yle.fi/tv/suorat/yle-areena/1-2779136
- zokier 11y agoHere is info for Elisa Mobile network IPv6 http://www.elisa.fi/ipv6 http://www.elisa.fi/ipv6
- dezgeg 11y agoAt least DNA in Helsinki delivered, this is what I started to see today: wlp3s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 inet 82.181.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.248.0 broadcast 82.181.xxx.255 inet6 2001:14ba:100:0:4a21:b369:xxxx:xxxx prefixlen 128 scopeid 0x0<global> http://test-ipv6.com/ http://test-ipv6.com/ gives a score of 10/10. It looks like they are currently serving only /128 via DHCPv6, though.
- tbr 11y agoLast time I asked a technical(!) sales person at TeliaSonera about IPv6 availability they asked "Did you mean IPTV?". That pretty much sums it up and they are notably not ready for the "launch", but the launch page implies it's a staged roll out to ensure network stability. I read that as "we couldn't be bothered to get things done in time like the other ISPs". Notice how e.g. DNA just flipped a switch and went bang.
- zokier 11y agoYou might be in luck, it seems like Sonera has been deploying 6rd for some time already. Maybe you could already get IPv6?
- tbr 11y agoI have a tunnel already, had for a decade. I want native IPv6.
- lucb1e 11y ago> technical(!) Anyone remotely technical knows about IPv6. If that's what you get when you ask for tech support, ask if they have real technicians whom you could talk to.
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- tbr 11y agoyes, that person transferred me and then one or two more transfers later I had some actual tech person who went "oh yeah, we do IPv6, I think, it's a business feature. How you get it, I have no clue." It took another two months of probing and poking and unanswered call requests to B2B sales, to find out that in theory I could get a business connection, but it would cost me 10x as much with the only benefit being native IPv6. (It would be still over a crappy VDSL2 line at identical parameters).
- vardump 11y ago> Notice how e.g. DNA just flipped a switch and went bang. How loud bang and how much smoke?
- betaby 11y agoI some what skeptical about all those IPv6 launch days. Residential IPSs across the world really do not care. Meanwhile in Canada for example Rogers gives 3G/LTE users IPs from the 25.0.0.0/8 (UK Ministry of Defence) and then NAT them to the pool of the real IPv4 IPs. No IPv6 as you may guess.
- callahad 11y agoAs far as I can tell, T-Mobile in the US provisions handsets with IPv6 by default.
- betaby 11y agoHow is your experience? If you tether, do you get IPv6 on your laptop as well? Is IPv4 traffic NATed or not ?
- simoncion 11y agoI'm not the OP, but when I tether with my Nexus S (running Cyanogenmod), I get an IPv4 address in RFC 1918 space. T-Mobile gives their handsets only an IPv6 address. They also used to use -I think- NAT64, which meant that direct access to resources by their IPv4 address failed. [0] IIRC, their IPv6->IPv4 bridging method has been changed, so you can access IPv4 resources by their address now. [0] T-Mo was using -I think- the return of an A record in DNS lookup to establish a NAT mapping, so IP access without the lookup didn't trigger the mapping.
- tzs 11y agoI just got an iPhone 6 Plus from T-Mobile a couple days ago, and I don't seem to be getting an IPv6 address over LTE. Maybe they aren't doing it everywhere yet? I'm in Western Washington, in the Puget Sound area on the other side of the water from Seattle.
- teraflop 11y agoOn Android, you can just go to "Settings" -> "Cellular networks" -> "Access point names" and choose whether you want to request an IPv4 or IPv6 address. As far as I can tell (from looking at https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201699 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201699), iOS doesn't have an equivalent option, so it probably just doesn't support IPv6 over cellular networks yet.
- rogeryu 11y agoI use the DNS flusher addon in Firefox, and with the Status-4-evar toolbar addon, I can see the IP address of the sites I visit. My provider (not in Finland) offers IPv6 support, and I see IPv6 addresses quite often, especially for Google, Facebook and other big sites. This addon makes IPv6 real for me. I know my provider uses IPv6, but actually seeing this address makes a difference to me. Most people don't know and don't care, and they shouldn't as normal user, but for me it's different.
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- dmfdmf 11y agoI think we should pick a day, not too far out, and we all should immediately switch to IPv6 and the metric system world wide. Just rip off the band-aids and move forward.
- themodelplumber 11y agoI can't begin to imagine what that would cost in lost business due to downtime.
- k__ 11y agoThis would probably have health implications. 220lb seem more than 100kg
- Tyr42 11y agoI mean, it could have the opposite affect, since breaking the 3 digit barrier is a bit more important than 220.
- na85 11y agokilograms aren't a measure of weight.
- omegaham 11y agoYou are correct, but when I'm messing around with bumper plates, the red plate says 55kg rather than 539N. If you're not in the lab, a kilogram is simultaneously the mass and the force of gravity of said mass at sea level.
- k__ 11y agoIs "Pound" more like "Newton" than "Gram"?
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- sakri 11y agoTorille?
- Dobbs 11y agoApple has actually done a really good job of pushing IPv6. For years their devices have supported it from their routers to their laptops. Between Apple and Comcast's recent IPv6 turnup I'm actually on IPv6 by default.
- pornel 11y agoIPv6 works without problems in OS X, but AirPort doesn't support IPv6 over PPPoE (I've had no luck with bridge mode either, even though it theoretically should support that).
- simon_vetter 11y agoI've used a Time Capsule just fine in bridge mode when cabled to a CPE sending out router advertisements. If you use it as a bridge, you might want to make sure the TC firewall is disabled (or at least lets multicasts through).