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India’s Answer to Google Glass: The Smartshoe
- acchow 12y agoWhat does this have to do with Google Glass? I believe this is one of those cases where writing your own post title is allowed (encouraged?).
- visakanv 12y agoThey're both wearable tech, I guess. Title might be better phrased as "Wearable Tech in India".
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- hellbreakslose 12y agohow does this make 1st on HN... indias answer? I don't trust anything developed by India.
- pyre 12y agoI'm surprised that this wasn't mentioned: http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/b8/76/b8761a8f11c0e30390e6224d482cbe74.jpg?itok=ywocHyD9 http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_...
- anoopmunshi 12y agoPeople should look at technology rather than having a opinion, a person should not have mentioned India's answers to google. A very bad message for a country and to for the business.
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- matthewmacleod 12y agoThis is an awful headline. Not a terrible idea though - always exciting to see new wearables.
- kumarm 12y agoCertainly interesting idea. The writeup seems odd though. one: Title is off. Second: "The shoes sync up with the Google maps smartphone app and vibrate to tell users when and where to turn to reach their destination." Unless they worked with Google its not possible as out side Google Maps you have no way to notify your shoe about the turn (Through bluetooth).
- sambeau 12y agoI'm sure they meant "The shoes sync up with the Google maps SERVICE VIA A smartphone app" and the extra words were probably edited out for brevity. Most people wouldn't understand the difference.
- alokdhari 12y agoI am not sure how is it an answer to google glass !! It navigates and counts the number of steps and roughly the number of calories the wearer burns. Now if we consider it as an answer to google glass then is it an answer to smart watch and astronaut's suits(I consider them wearables as they are expensive and loaded with tech). End of the day, title's a bit too misleading I would say but none the less a good invention and I might even go back home and buy it.
- CaRDiaK 12y agoPossibly click bait. I think India's Answer to Wearable Computing would have been a little more fitting.
- vidyesh 12y agoIts not an apt title but the comparision is probably because it does most of the tasks Google Glass can perform right now. From the video at lechal.com and article it seems you one can save / share certain location or place and get directions ( shoe/sole vibrates for navigation ). Of course like any other wearable tech it is synced with your smartphone.
- jzwinck 12y agoThis has a great application for travelers in certain areas. The article glosses over it with "even tourists can plug in their destinations and not have to stop to check their phones" but this could be a big deal for people who spend a lot of time walking in unfamiliar areas where pickpockets roam. It's really not a good idea to take out your fancy smartphone there to check at each corner, but imagine walking around like you actually know where to go. This even applies to places like London, where there have been multiple cases of motorcyclists riding next to the sidewalk (er, pavement) to snatch smartphones from pedestrians.
- icebraining 12y agoI do this with my Nexus tablet and a cheap bluetooth headset, and just listen to Google Maps' turn-by-turn directions. No need for some gimmicky shoes.
- collyw 12y agoI am fairly sure when I was a teen in the late 80's that trainers got stolen. They were a status symbol for that age group at the time, and we had fancy tech like Reebok Pump built into them.
- george_morgan 12y agoRelated HN post from a number of years ago, covering a similar idea: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3192304 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3192304
- amrrs 12y agoIt's the same Le chal shoe from Ducere Technologies
- drum 12y agoShoes are a fantastic idea, and highly overlooked. The biggest hurdle to wearable technology is the friction required to convince a consumer to wear it. We all wear shoes. We don't all wear glasses or watches. Some of us even wear contacts to avoid wearing glasses. The Smartshoe doesn't seem as competitive to Google Glass as it is complimentary. Glasses have a better appeal for visual media capture because you can see what you're capturing in real time and from a better angle. The Smartshoe could have a better appeal for fitness and GPS use cases. Emphasizing 'smartsole' would probably be a better sell than 'smartshoe' though. Letting consumers stick with their personal fashion choices, i.e. Nike, Vans, is a powerful selling point.
- onion2k 12y agoIt also needs to be useful on a relatively regular basis otherwise there's a dissonance between added value and the additional cost. For these shoes to be useful you need to be walking somewhere you don't know the way to, without someone with you who knows the way with you, for a distance that makes you not want to take your phone out to check you're going the right way occasionally. I don't think I've been in that situation for about 10 years. If you're a courier or a messenger then these would be fantastically useful. For everyone else, they solve a problem no one really has.
- vitoreiji 12y agoYou might have just described backpackers.
- deepGem 12y agoIt's way too expensive for couriers or messengers. Good point though.
- 7952 12y agoI am not sure that people always need to actively navigate when on foot. You just go in the right general direction noticing places you recognise. You could subtly push the user along paths they have taken before and resist unknown paths. With gentle enough vibration and enough use would you even notice the prompting? It would just become a part of your natural navigation instead of the constant nagging of turn by turn.
- skalla 12y agowill it tickle the feet?
- pqs 12y agoIf the only purpose of these shoes is to get directions, I would prefer a pair of bracelets, which I could wear on my wrists or my ankles.
- iamtew 12y agoSounds like something like the Xiaomi MiBand that was announced a few days ago. http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/xiaomi-miband-a-fitness-tracker-for-just-8-9620628.html http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/xia...
- icoder 12y agoExactly! Sure it seems 'logical' at first sight that directions for the feet are directed at the feet. But since all signals need to go through the brain anyway, I don't see why you can't replace this with a bracelet or smartphone in your pocket (two vibration patterns, should be easy to learn). Especially the latter saves you a lot of recharge hassles. Steps could be measured just as well with a clip on my shoe(s) so I can wear whatever shoes I want. I would be surprised if there is no disadvantage at all to run on these shoes (or inlays) compared to a pair of well chosen running shoes.
- collyw 12y agoI a not convinced of the benefits of wearable technology in the immediate future. The watch was the original piece of wearable technology for years, but many people including myself don't bother with them now, because they can check their phone. The other application I can see an advanced version of a heart rate monitor. The fact is these will only appeal to a small part of the population. There are far more people who don't give a shit about their health than do AND want to shell out for something like this. This article actually gave a new case, for blind people. But considering how frustrating a conventional smartphone can be to get directions (no GPS lock, no signal, the phone has just decided to run slow while you really need it, or it crashes), I am skeptical about how good it will actually be. What is the advantage in having your shoe tell you which way to go over a handheld device like a phone?
- creyer 12y agoI like the idea, but can I suggested also on the same note that they can create a high tech condom, which will let you know how many diseases you have avoided each time you wear it, and it might have also a pleasure indicator, so at the end both partners, will know how much the other one faked. (Obviously this message is intended as a joke, and should not offend anyone)
- richmarr 12y agoThere are already litmus-style tests kicking around that change colour in the presence of a disease or virus. Maybe in future all condoms will warn about STDs... although you could imagine that getting depressing if you have an incurable one.
- untog 12y agoYou've just painted a horrifically realistic concept for the quantified self crowd. How was my orgasm? Was it better or worse than the one I had two days ago? Is my current partner giving me better orgasms than my previous one? Let's upload all of this personal data to the cloud and get some pretty charts...
- richmarr 12y agoI like the vision. Those inserts will need to come in different varieties to allow for people who already need inserts for other reasons, e.g. arch support... odour control... (not me obviously, I'm commenting on behalf of a friend)
- lmontrieux 12y agoI'm surprised nobody brought up the mandatory Python reference yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk
- mukundmr 12y agoWhat is WSJ upto? How does a shoe even compare to Google Glass? I live in India and I did hear any news about this...
- copycat22 12y agohow did this make it to the first page?
- LukeB_UK 12y agoSo every time you wear your shoes out, you have to buy a new pair of these expensive ones?
- inginist 12y agoIt sure sounds great contender ;)
- blazingswrd 12y agoHmm......this sounds familiar...sounds very close to this MIT Media Lab project: http://dhairyadand.com/sec/?page=projects&id=supershoes http://dhairyadand.com/sec/?page=projects&id=supershoes
- zkar 12y agoIndia seems to produce many alternate low cost ideas for the latest technology. However being in India, we don't see or experience any mass market usage of these alternates. Some examples.. low cost tablet,laptop,even the tata nano low cost car don't have mass market adoption considering the fact that there are 1 billion+ people.
- rtx 12y agoI guess the problem comes due to positioning. I am not looking for a low cost product. I am looking for a good product at a lower cost.
- kinj28 12y agocool stuff. a potential issue in India market for smart shoe in India is: in most holy places they need to remove footwear & also many a times they get stolen.
- noisy_boy 12y agoIndians make sure not to wear the "good shoes" to the temple for the precisely same reason.
- kbart 12y agoCan't help it: http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/get_smart-tv.jpg http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/get_smart-tv.jp...
- mdisraeli 12y agoOn a similar note, check out Northpaw, a project to help people develop a sense of north - http://sensebridge.net/projects/northpaw/ http://sensebridge.net/projects/northpaw/. This exact same method might actually be an easier way to get wearable navigational aids, as it will work with all shoes. What I found interesting was that the insoles featured had a surprisingly similar height profile to my medical orthotic insoles for pes cavovarus (high arches, inward-turned heels)[1]. I'm all for tech that fits disabilities by default! (although this is probably an accidental by-product of the required space for the tech)
- MrBuddyCasino 12y agoInteresting - does the motor run all the time, or in intervalls?
- gusfoo 12y ago> does the motor run all the time, or in intervalls? It runs all the time. I built one of these using a kit from Sensebrige. The results were not as good as I had hoped.
- MrBuddyCasino 12y agoWhat was your issue with it? I have a bad sense of orientation, and I thought about building my own version of it, theirs is too large imho. Also, running a motor continually seems like it would drain the battery really quick.
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- donniezazen 12y ago> The shoes sync up with a smartphone app that uses Google maps and vibrate to tell users when and where to turn to each their destination. You have to take into consideration that internet is not really great in India. Slow internet will force drawing of battery in mere an hour or two. Secondly, Google Maps in India isn't as great as it is in western countries. I had to literally uninstall Moves because it would eat up at least 15-20% of battery compared to it used to either not take more than 5% of battery in US.
- denom 12y agoThere has been some research on generating energy from the flexing motions of shoes. Maybe these could be self-powered?
- anishkothari 12y agoInteresting concept. I think this would be great for travellers so they don't have to ask for directions from locals who might otherwise misguide them. For example: http://learningindia.in/how-to-never-get-lost-in-india/ http://learningindia.in/how-to-never-get-lost-in-india/ http://indiaopines.com/perils-directions-india/ http://indiaopines.com/perils-directions-india/
- thisisandyok 12y agoI always feel like such a hopeless tourist when I have to consult my phone for directions. I'd definitely feel a lot happier (and safer) being able to pay more attention to my surroundings.
- anishkothari 12y agoLikewise. I hate looking like a tourist and go out of my way to look/act like a local when I travel (mostly for safety reasons). Now that I've read your comment, I think these shoes might do better in parts of the world that have better maps and faster internet than India. They might have to upgrade the look though!
- dreamweapon 12y agoJust wait -- pretty soon, they'll come installed upward-pointing cams. And anyone opposed to having such gear in mass circulation will be derided as "luddites".
- logfromblammo 12y agoThis is an absolutely brilliant idea. Wearables like Glass solve the problem of people having their faces glued to their phones by gluing their phones to their faces. And people use their faces for social interaction. So face-mounted tech is immediately noticeable and obvious, especially around eyes and ears. Hence, the nickname "glasshole". Vibration is not new. I recall seeing video of a belt fitted with multiple vibration motors that always vibrated the motor closest to true north. This allowed blindfolded people to navigate across the test field to a predetermined destination. This puts the same concept into the least noticeable spot on your body: the soles of your feet. Shoes are nearly impossible to forget when you go out, and we are already well conditioned to tolerate wearing them. Obviously, it has lower sensory resolution than a visual or audible interface, but it is going through a completely different channel. Over-eye or in-ear wearables have to compete for bandwidth in already cluttered channels. Tactile wearables have a wide open channel, just begging to be used. Add in an interface for foot-gesture inputs, and you could do a lot more than just navigation and pedometry.
- realrocker 12y agoWhy is it titled India's answer to Google Glass? Possible explanations: 1. The editors know that Indians are susceptible to jingoistic patriotism. "Wow Indians did this? Really?" 2. The editors think that Indians as a collective are not a piece of the flat world and their accomplishments are more surprising than routine. 3. Now that China has pulled itself close to developed nations, India represents "The Third World Asian Country". I am not offended. IMO all of the above are true. But I guess it can't be too hard to refer a product by the company name rather than the whole nation.
- rainhacker 12y agoI think it is condescending to associate a product with a country and not the company.
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- Aldo_MX 12y agoThe first thing that came to my mind: Play Dance Dance Revolution without a pad :D
- disposablename 12y agoWas I the only one expecting a self-guided shoe you can throw at glassholes?