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F.lux updated
- sizzle 13y agoso if I'm working in a room with daylight temp. bulbs past midnight, should I avoid F.lux?
- aroch 13y agoYes, finally!
- robbiet480 13y agoMan, I was hoping that they would have added Hue support to Mac as well as Windows :(
- herf 13y agoWe are getting there - the Windows one was fading too early at night, so we had to get the schedule right first. The new schedule is a big deal, and we can build a lot from it.
- jurjenh 13y agoI've been enjoying spotting the sunset. Can't actually see the sun setting where I live, but the sudden change in hue (blueish to reddish - I've set it quite red) is quite noticeable (pleasing to my eyes).
- zx2c4 13y agoStill closed source. What a shame.
- JetSpiegel 13y agoRedshift is good too, and it works on Linux, Mac and Windows. [1] http://jonls.dk/redshift/ http://jonls.dk/redshift/
- mattm 13y agoJust found this today. I love how I can set the brightness during the day as well. 5500K feels much better on my eyes than the default 6500K I was using before.
- ama729 13y agoOn Ubuntu/Debian, if you want to have an icon to make it easy to toggle it, install: sudo apt-get install gtk-redshift
- easy_rider 13y agov helpful, wow
- JetSpiegel 13y agoI always forget that It's called redshift-gtk on Red Hat based distros.
- teddyknox 13y agoIt would really be a shame if it was closed source and not maintained.
- RivieraKid 13y agoAndroid pls.
- tempestn 13y agoI've found Lux Auto Brightness to be a reasonable substitute.
- ChrisClark 13y agoLux works really great if you have a Nexus 4. Instead of just overlaying a partially transparent block of color, it actually adjusts the screen temperature at a much lower level in the OS. There is a Nexus 4 plugin on the Play Store to intsall if you want to try it out, made by the same developer.
- sizzle 13y agoastronomer mode is simply amazing. I rooted my nexus 4 solely to get this feature
- ChrisClark 13y agoYeah, I turn it on every night for some bedtime reading.
- sizzle 13y agoDo you know if this is achievable on the nexus 5? I really don't want to upgrade without it
- aroch 13y agoAfter using Lux for a long time I've recently migrated to Velis autobrightness [1] and have, anecdotally, found it to work better. Less stochastic brightness changes, better bright and lowlight sensor attenuation and less batter drain. 1: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.velis.auto.brightness https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.velis.auto...
- stereo 13y agoThe worst part about updating Flux is that you have to quit the currently running version, with the white flash that hurts your eyes.
- krsunny 13y agoSo update it during the day time when its not active
- imperialdrive 13y agohuge fan of f.lux - couldn't work without it - I actually switched from iOS to Android over the want for this single app!
- sizzle 13y agoit isn't on android, is it? link please
- afterburner 13y agoTry Twilight
- sahaskatta 13y agoThere are multiple, but this one seems to be the touted one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux
- kolev 13y agoI have purchased both Lux and Twilight, but Twilight (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.lux https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid...) is better.
- tobyjsullivan 13y agoI love the Darkroom feature. I think that'll have some surprisingly handy applications. Edit: Unfortunately, it seems to completely break when my screensaver kicks in.
- Dylan16807 13y agoDarkroom's great, I just wish it would convert to grayscale before dropping the blue and green channels.
- herf 13y agoIt does.
- Dylan16807 13y agoOn the current version on windows* it doesn't. Any differences in blue or green become completely invisible. *3.10, and I don't see a non-mac beta link
- nardi 13y agoIsn't that what happens when you convert to grayscale? (Assuming the blue and green end up with the same gray values.)
- Dylan16807 13y agoIn darkroom mode, 0x80ffff and 0x800000 are the exact same color. I don't mean that just tint disappears, I mean that vast luminosity differences disappear.
- Tyr42 13y agoI wish it didn't make my dark themed vim look really bright. But great for browsing and not working.
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- vanmount 13y agoI hope they're pushing the latest changes to their linux repo at some time. I love flux but all those nice Mac features make me jealous...
- scrapcode 13y agoHave you checked out Redshift? I love flux on my mac but it's quite buggy on linux in my experience.
- bretthopper 13y agof.lux was basically unusable in its previous version that was tied to sunset. In Toronto, for example, f.lux would start kicking in at 5pm in the winter which is no where near most people's bedtimes. My solution was to continually disable it for an hour at a time until I had enough and uninstalled it. Happy to be able to try it out again.
- smackfu 13y agoIt's supposed to be tied to the time you turn your lights on (with their different color temp), not when you go to bed. But maybe some people use it differently?
- JoshTriplett 13y ago> It's supposed to be tied to the time you turn your lights on (with their different color temp), not when you go to bed. This assumes you work in a room exposed to sunlight during the day.
- Crito 13y agoIt also assumes you don't work in a well-light environment during the 3rd shift. Regardless though, I think these shortcomings should be resolvable by simply setting your location in flux/redshift "incorrectly". So if you work the 3rd shift and use artificial lighting to give yourself an 'artificial day', then you'd just set flux/redshift to think that you are a continent or so over.
- 2muchcoffeeman 13y agoNot sure if you use flux, but you can set the colour temp for your daytime and your night time to match the kind of lights you are working under. They even mark certain temps like tungsten, fluoro, halogen etc ... So you don't have to assume anything. I also use flux to match colour temperatures. It's pretty great!
- Dylan16807 13y agoI use f.lux when I want to avoid bright light. I don't use it to try to match the color temperature of the room. As such, I turn f.lux on around the point I start turning lights off, long after winter sunset. And I have it set to a rather dramatic setting.
- suprgeek 13y ago"A healthy circadian rhythm depends on seeing bright light while you’re awake, not just avoiding bright light before bed" This statement cannot be emphasized enough. Especially for Hackers and other indoor/Desk bound folks, the amount of bright sunlight exposure is critically important for two reasons: 1) Sunlight is the "moderator" of our circadian Rhythm via Melatonin and other Neuro-chemicals 2) A large percentage of people are Vitamin-D deficient, more Sunlight (on skin) = greater chance of Combating this issue Taken together, fixing these will resolve many issues..
- scott_karana 13y agoLooks like the f.lux people agree: "The sun is up—go outside!" is the message I'm seeing right now in the Preferences. :-)
- sorbits 13y agoI moved from a dark to a very bright apartment, and it fixed my sleep problems, except during winter (where there is little sun, as I’m from Scandinavia), to fix that, I try to spend the darker months on the southern hemisphere.
- hkmurakami 13y agoYou may consider investing in a natural sunlight lamp. http://www.amazon.com/NatureBright-SunTouch-Plus-Light-Therapy/dp/B000W8Y7FY http://www.amazon.com/NatureBright-SunTouch-Plus-Light-Thera...
- dethstar 13y agoCould this explain how moving from my less thick curtains has made me very tired? I used to just wake up at the rise of the sun and felt refreshed no matter what, but now it seems like I never get any good sleep.
- GigabyteCoin 13y agoDo some A B testing on yourself to know for sure. In my opinion however, lack of sunlight when waking weighs heavily on ones ability to rise in the mornings.
- JetSpiegel 13y agoI love f.lux, but it's ironic that their page has a white background, blinding me coming from the Dark Hacker News [1]. [1] http://userstyles.org/styles/71155/georgify-dark-hacker-news http://userstyles.org/styles/71155/georgify-dark-hacker-news
- herf 13y agoThis is an important problem to fix, because the eyes adjust to the dark screen (your pupil opens up), and in fact switching quickly to a bright screen is extremely alerting.
- hornetblack 13y agoI used to use black terminals, then went to white due to most webpages being white. Switch from black terminal/emacs to a white webpage was just too irritating. (sometimes painful)
- usea 13y agoIt would be cool if the background of their page changed color depending on your local time.
- cmod 13y agoLiz Danzico's Bobulate[0] has had a "night mode" for years, based on your local time-zone: [0]: http://bobulate.com/ http://bobulate.com/
- skrause 13y agoMy fix is to not use dark themes anywhere. When I'm on a website with a dark background I click my "zap colors" bookmarklet which reverses the colors: https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/zap.html https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/zap.html
- DustinCalim 13y agoHow about dark everything? I give you Hacker Vision: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-vision/fommidcneendjonelhhhkmoekeicedej https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-vision/fomm...
- aidos 13y agof.lux now shows you when the sun’s up We need to get out more...
- elwell 13y agoThe problem I had with flux is I couldn't keep my gamma settings on my displays. (windows + intel graphics driver software)
- monkeynotes 13y agoI wish something similar could work on an iPad. I use my iPad before bed and it often impacts on my ability to sleep.
- Phlarp 13y agoThere are ports of this for IOS and android. On Android it's called "easyeyez".
- sahaskatta 13y agoAndroid actually has one called 'lux' https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux I have not tried it yet, but I hear good things.
- kolev 13y agoI personally prefer Twilight (https://play.google.com/store/apps/)details?id=com.urbandroid.lux https://play.google.com/store/apps/)details?id=com.urbandroi...).
- chid 13y agoThere is, if you're jailbroken, it's called F.lux :)
- goodmachine 13y ago+1 for iPad. I'd pay for this
- state 13y agoI was just turned on to f.lux recently and I can't recommend it enough. I find the affects to be really noticeable and positive; working during the night is much less abrasive and I find the transition from screen to bed to be really smooth. I love that something so simple can have such direct, physical ramifications.
- pcarmichael 13y agoI had the previous version installed on my mac, and kept seeing sporadic issues with my mouse cursor jumping a couple hundred pixels at once when moving it side to side. Finally disabled F.lux and the problem went away. Anyone know if the new release fixes that issue?
- Rodeva 13y agoI've had the exact same issue. I just updated to the new beta and my mouse cursor is still jumping. It only happens during the transitioning phase (for me at least), so it's only 20 seconds that my mouse is barely usable. The new features are worth the minor annoyance in my opinion.
- herf 13y agoMavericks (or the drivers it ships with) is locking the window server for 50-100ms every time we touch the color table (10.8 was awesome and didn't do this). We've reduced our frame rate to compensate (it's better in this version), but it is noticeable when we do fast animations.
- kevinday 13y agoIs this also why when I hover over the menubar icon I get a beachball until it's done animating? I didn't see in this in the old version, but with today's I couldn't access the menu bar at all until it was finished fading.
- herf 13y agoI've been tracking this but haven't found a fix yet. There is sometimes a beachball if you interact with the menu item immediately after launch. I'll keep looking.
- lpsz 13y agoFWIW, Mac dev. here too, seeing the same issue in 10.9 with my app (beachball when interacting immediately after launch.) Haven't been able to track this down yet.
- chid 13y agoI'm slightly confused, are there actually any useful updates to the Windows version or is this just for the mac?
- yebyen 13y agoNope. I just installed the windows version myself, the new features sounded cool. Looks like the ability to even set "this is when I wake up" is still missing from Windows F.lux
- sizzle 13y agocan we please, PLEASE have an android port of F.lux. All the other apps make my phone erratic and lag, or flash the unfiltered screen at random intervals which is binding at night. I would gladly pay for this!
- afterburner 13y agoTwilight no good? Works great for me.
- Crito 13y agoIf that's the same one I tried, it doesn't actually work the same. It works by overlaying a transparent reddish color over everything, effectively "redshifting" whites but also (and unlike flux/redshift) messing up black (black goes from black to red-tinged black). This was very noticeable for me because I have an AMOLED screen, so going from black to red-tinged-black actually made my phone brighter.
- afterburner 13y agoHmm, you're right about the blacks, but it does the trick for me. Definitely doesn't seem brighter to me, the blue-white brightness is far more wakeful.
- Crito 13y agoI suspect it works much better on non-AOLED screens. In lieu of it, I use "Screen Filter" to turn my brightness down way below what I can normally.
- afterburner 13y agoI do have an AMOLED screen, but your eyes could very well be more sensitive to the effect you describe.
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- bobbles 13y agoOnce you have tried it for a week or so, try using a different computer until the same time at night. Your eyes will be significantly more tired / drained.
- herf 13y agoYou may want our "sunset" setting at a higher color temp (maybe I should add a preset called "f.lux lite" for this...) The "working late" preset is another good one to try.
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- sizzle 13y ago*blinding at night. how is twilight?
- lightblade 13y agoAw..scheduler Now I want a Smart Things[1] integration with this. [1]: http://www.smartthings.com http://www.smartthings.com
- disbelief 13y ago> Disable until sunrise Thank you F.lux! The one feature I really hoped you'd add.
- rjzzleep 13y agoherf, i've been trying to find some info on this, but can you tell us why the default color settings changed so much? (recommended colors, vs. classic flux)
- herf 13y agoOne answer is: because we could! Previously the setting you'd want right before bed looked totally silly at sunset. But the more interesting answer is: we made a model after measuring dozens of panels with a spectrometer. The science isn't totally clear on this (it's clearer with super-bright lights), but it's our best read of what you actually need to wind down on a cross-section of current devices. Some of the new LED panels are pretty effective at stimulating melanopsin. Overall, you can reduce a lot of circadian stimulus by dimming really far, but assuming you're working at a moderate level, you need pretty warm colors. Really though, we can only do so much with displays, because if your lights are pretty bright in your bedroom, it doesn't matter what we do. So we'll probably have a large number of users choosing some less intense settings just because the room they're in doesn't match.
- john2x 13y agoStill no option to remove the icon from the menu?
- linksbro 13y agoCheck out Bartender.
- Hydraulix989 13y agoWhat about Linux? The "f.lux: F.A.Q." page only has a broken archive.org link. When I tried using xflux, it was consuming inordinate CPU cycles.
- bostonvaulter2 13y agoI'd recommend Redshift on Linux http://jonls.dk/redshift/ http://jonls.dk/redshift/
- lawnchair_larry 13y agoHmm, I don't like this update. I don't want flux to be on my schedule. My schedule is bad - that's why I use flux. The point of it is to help regulate my own rhythm, not reinforce my bad habits.
- herf 13y agoOur "classic f.lux" mode turns off all the wake time scheduling, so you can just use sunrise/sunset. But if you can pick a time, our super-warm colors are available and will help a bit with scheduling. Back before I had a toddler who wakes up early every day, I didn't wake up the same time every day, so it would have been a really hard question to answer for me too.
- teddyknox 13y agoThat's why it seem you get to set your ideal schedule with a wakeup time.
- motyar 13y agoThis is the only app I have to jailbreak my iPhone and iPodtouch.
- JeffL 13y agoThese new features are only for the Mac version?
- duochrome 13y agoA releated question: I need to adjust the brightness a few times every day just to match the ambient light. Are there any better solutions? I don't use the laptop display as the watching angle is not healthy. I use dell displays.
- math0ne 13y agoIs this stuff mac only?
- covi 13y agoIs f.lux good for my eyes?
- quadrangle 13y agoYES! Not using it is BAD for your eyes
- teddyknox 13y agoThere's a new trend I've noticed recently in the software industry behind research driven development.. there's another link on the frontpage about reading software by a startup called Spritz http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/27/spritz-reading_n_4865756.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/27/spritz-reading_n_48... that has somehow managed to get >300% improvement on reading speeds just by taking eye scroll out of the equation. I'm excited that we've reached the point where we've started questioning the fundamentals of our user interfaces, and I'm surprised how easy the switch over to this next-gen of design has been. I expected the process to resemble the painful switch from Querty to Dvorak, but it's been more creative than that.
- scrumper 13y agoLove F.lux; congrats on the update. Has it fixed that nasty Mavericks multiple display bug that filled the console with thousands of these lines? 6/3/14 21:37:52.209 Flux[26626]: CGSGetSizeOfDisplayTransfer: Invalid display 0x0424e64d
- herf 13y agoWe tracked it down to the system telling us a display was both added and removed in a single callback. (Reported to Apple.) This new version mostly avoids this bug, but there are still cases where it will appear briefly. We now fix it within a few minutes by polling the displays. Unfortunately, polling the online displays frequently uses more CPU & results in making MacBooks wake up much more slowly, so while we have a "bulletproof" fix we haven't been able to use it. Hopefully we'll be able to have a 100% solution soon but this build is a considerable improvement. We'll spend some more time testing and see if we can do better before it's out of beta.
- alxndr 13y agoNice.
- dfc 13y agoWhat features does f.lux have that are not in redshift?
- wiradikusuma 13y agoIs flux "compatible" for people with day job and doing side projects after hours? You want to be sleepy when it's time to sleep, but you don't want to be sleepy when you're working on your exit ticket from bigco.
- MarkTee 13y agoDefinitely. In my experience, it doesn't induce sleep, it just helps alleviate the negative consequences of standard monitor temperatures (such as making it difficult to fall asleep after using the computer late at night).
- pwthornton 13y agoYou're crazy if you don't use flux. It's incredible. You'll sleep better, get less headaches and it helps with eye strain. My only regret is that I can't get it on every computing device I own.
- dhruvmittal 13y agoYou can get twilight on android [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.lux https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid...], or redshift on linux (flux is also available, but redshift is more functional). I think f.lux is available for jailbroken ios devices, as well.
- rjbwork 13y agoI use EasyEyez on Android. It has a Tasker hook so you can set it to turn on at certain times. The deactivation is slightly buggy though so i have to turn it off each morning with a single tap on my homescreen.
- rjernigan 13y agoIt's also available on jailbroken iPhones. https://justgetflux.com/ios.html https://justgetflux.com/ios.html
- onedev 13y agoYou can get it on iOS if you jailbreak :) It's in Cydia. It is the #1 reason I wanted to jailbreak iOS7.
- dijit 13y agoI've jailbroken for this reason, it was the only thing I used on the cydia store (although that was also due to the fact most things were for older versions of iOS and they didn't work) however, my banking app saw the jailbreak and refused to work... weighing up ease of access to accounts vs colour changing phone... I chose accounts... now I just avoid my phone in the evenings. -- it's really a shame an app like that doens't make it in to the mainline app store.
- tlb 13y agoI'd happily pay $9.99 through the App store, if you guys ever want to monetize my grateful eyeballs.
- catshirt 13y agosame! when it comes to my livelihood i try not to skimp. i won't hesitate to splurge on a desk chair or a bed for instance. flux falls in that category of things i would unquestionably pay good money for.
- ozi 13y agoI'd pay for some cool extra modes like darkroom. Or is there a decent program that does that already?
- jnsaff2 13y agohah, the new version has just this.
- pax 13y agoNocturne also does this. I keep it for inverting my Menu Bar when not in use. It would be of course more convenient if f.lux would do this so I can get rid of one extra app in the menu bar. http://github.com/InBeta/nocturne http://github.com/InBeta/nocturne http://www.blacktree.com/projects/nocturne.html http://www.blacktree.com/projects/nocturne.html http://code.google.com/p/blacktree-nocturne/downloads/list http://code.google.com/p/blacktree-nocturne/downloads/list
- francis88 13y agosame. I wish I knew it before
- mattgreenrocks 13y agoDitto. I'd love for there to be a way to hide the notification icon permanently, though that probably violates the App Store rules.
- quadrangle 13y ago
- InclinedPlane 13y agoI didn't really "get" the purpose of flux for a while. I appreciated the sleep schedule reinforcement aspects of it but if you don't have a normal sleep schedule then it would seem to be less useful. That's always been the major selling point for f.lux forever, and it seemed so intrusive so I didn't use it. However, I finally figured out the real reason for using it: white balance adjustment. The thing is, our eyes aren't just imaging sensors, they're active systems that continually adjust to ambient conditions. They do lots of things without us even thinking about it. One of the most important things they do is compensate for white balance. If you look at a white wall when the sun is shining on it during the height of daytime and if you look at the same wall during the middle of the night when it's illuminated by artificial light you will perceive it to be the same color in both instances. But in reality it's not, when lit by indoor lighting it's a very different color, but our eyes/vision system automatically adjust for the different spectrum of lighting. The problem is that computer monitors throw a monkey wrench into this because they are independent light sources. White displayed during the day on a computer monitor is #FFFFFF, during the night it's still #FFFFFF, but this conflicts with the white balance of the environment. And that conflict causes eye strain and discomfort. At night looking at your monitor you might even perceive white to be slightly bluish, due to the conflicting white balance. By bringing the white balance of your display into harmony with the changing white balance of ambient lighting (as it transitions from natural to artificial) you get rid of a lot of those problems. Hopefully with f.lux adding more configurability into their program they can make people more aware of these benefits regardless of sleep patterns.
- MrBlue 13y agoF.lux never worked for me. (Ubuntu 12.04) Cool idea though.
- en4bz 13y agoTry redshift, I find it much better than flux on Ubuntu.
- marcoagner 13y agoWow, I've JUST downloaded F.lux on my computer. Came here to read Hacker News and this is on the top. Oh, HN... haha
- Houshalter 13y agoI've been using f.lux for I think about a year. Honestly I think it's just a placebo and I haven't noticed any real effect. My sleep schedule is terrible. I just feel I should comment because all of the only people commenting are those that did benefit (or at least believe they did.) The comments are not an accurate survey of how many people really did see an effect.
- sliverstorm 13y agoThe point isn't that it puts you to sleep like a drug. The point is you are ready to sleep; you don't spend forever falling asleep, that sort of thing. So setting a reasonable sleep schedule is still up to you.
- Houshalter 13y agoI get that. I certainly didn't expect it to solve all my problems. I am saying that I don't think it had any effect for me, or at least that it was very small.
- Malician 13y agoThe normal, medical wisdom is "don't look at a screen before you need to sleep". F.lux is proposed as a way to ameliorate the effects of our reckless geeky disregard for what sleep scientists are telling us to do. If you have trouble sleeping even without the interference of electronic screens or lights, F.lux isn't going to fix any of that because you don't have the problem it addresses.
- MarkTee 13y agoDid you ever try turning f.lux off late at night? Everyone that I've spoken to has mentioned that they immediately found themselves squinting or needing to turn down the brightness of their monitor.
- dakrisht 13y agoOne of the best utilities ever. What I would do to get this on iOS devices. And if you guys feel like monetizing, throw up a donation button I'm sure you'll have transactions ringing nonstop. Thanks for the amazing utility you've created - you help us work better and sleep better.
- nopassrecover 13y agoIt's on Cydia.
- rz2k 13y agoTo elaborate, Cydia is an app store/package manager for jailbroken iOS devices. The US Copyright office and the Library of Congress have confirmed that jailbreaking your iPhone is not a violation of the DMCA, and it is very easy. Evasi0n7[1] runs as an application on your PC or Mac with your device connected, jailbreaks the device and installs Cydia. It does not affect anything in the regular Apple App Store, it merely lets you install additional programs including tweaks that customize the interface. Perhaps interesting, f.lux is featured on the front page of Cydia, so you don't even have to search for it. [1] http://evasi0n.com/ http://evasi0n.com/
- jkn 13y agoWhat I would do to get this on iOS devices. If you're willing to go as far as leaving the walled garden, you can get e.g. Twilight on Android. Not what you asked for of course but this is actually a good example of where the closed nature of iOS hurts users.
- MrScruff 13y agoI'm pretty certain iOS users on HN are aware of the inherent limitations of their devices. It's also easy to give examples of where the closed nature benefits users but it would be tedious to list them in every discussion.
- WickyNilliams 13y agoI found all of the apps of this sort on android were sorely lacking. None of them actually adjusted the screen warmth, they just put an "always on" semi-transparent overlay on the center of the screen. If you have software keys on your device, this becomes immediately obvious because the keys don't have the overlay and appear really bright Such a shame, but I don't think APIs are available to developers for this purpose
- Kluny 13y agoI just witnessed proof that I NEED flux - I turned it off to download this update, and it felt like my eyeballs were stabbed with a blue knife. The difference was shocking. I don't know how I ever lived without it.
- kolev 13y agoI cannot live without F.lux on Mac and Twilight on Android. Can't wait for my orange shades to arrive as I have CFL lights in the kitchen, which I cannot remove and started to supplement with bioidentical melatonin recently. I've been using F.lux since it got released years ago, used Redshift on Ubuntu, and this release finally brings Windows features to Mac and I'm so happy! I've been ridiculed all this years for my reddish screen and most people ask: "What's wrong with your screen?" and they get, "No, what's wrong with yours?".
- Udo 13y agoI just realized for the first time that I'm apparently using F.lux differently from all other people. For me, it's about making the color palette more compatible with the lighting situation in the room. I'm not into all that circadian stuff at all. I love the new features, but I'm not wild about the software calculating the "night-time-but-not-bedtime" duration for me. Though F.lux seems to go into the opposite direction, I would prefer more configurability not less - for example letting people set the transition times themselves and enabling them to have as many lighting modes as they want.
- agravier 13y agoSame thing here, I also thought that Flux was designed with white balance harmonisation (wrt the environment) in mind. What I thought would have been neat is the option to use the webcam (or ambient light sensor in macbooks) to actually estimate the ambient light temperature every hour or so, and make a gradual adjustment. I'm not sure if there are good algos to estimate the lightning from a few webcam frames, I just wanted to put this idea out there.
- joveian 13y agoThis sounds like an excellent idea to me. I use redshift and have various sleep troubles that often keep me up when it is dark. I've tried manually shutting it off when I'm awake at night, but I find that now that I am used to the shifting my eyes do not appreciate a bright screen in a dimly lit room. I sometimes use brighter ambient lighting but haven't found it makes much difference for me (quite likely related to my specific issues). I think in general keeping both the screen relative to the ambient light and ambient light relative to sleep schedule is important. Of course, I'm one of those paranoid types who disable the webcam in the bios unless expecting to use it so that wouldn't help me specifically, but ambient light sensors sound like something every computer should have IMO.
- agravier 13y agoI share your opinion, I very greatly appreciate this sensor in the MBP, as it adjusts the screen's luminous emittance and the keyboard backlights brightness. Now, I wonder about its capabilities. Can it also measure "ambient color"? A quick search didn't reveal any published specs.
- derefr 13y agoI used, and enjoyed, f.lux for a few years. These days, though, I just recalibrate my OS color profile to something reddish and leave it there. Why should I want to look at blue light during the day?
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- baq 13y agowhy the topic doesn't mention is just for the mac?
- vincentmilliken 13y agoAnyone know if they have added support for a second monitor for Mac? Last time I checked it only worked for one of my monitors on my MBP, would be great to start using this again.
- vincentmilliken 13y agoTo answer my own question for anyone else, DisplayLink still doesn't support colour calibration so F.lux cant be used on a second monitor that is connected with a DisplayLink. Only monitors directly connected. From F.lux - "I have a DisplayLink USB monitor adapter. Is there a way to make f.lux work for this display? DisplayLink has no support for color calibration, so f.lux can't make changes to DisplayLink monitors. Unfortunately, you can only use f.lux today on displays that are directly connected to your computer. (e.g., it usually won't work over remote desktop either.)" http://justgetflux.com/faq.html http://justgetflux.com/faq.html
- gtklocker 13y agoGood to see the HTTPS site/download working. Now if only we had GPG signatures for this.
- heyimwill 13y agoSorry for my ignorance but why would we need GPG signatures for something like this? I'm genuinely curious.
- andrewaylett 13y agoTo be more certain that the code I'm about to run was written by the people I trust (by repute) to write non-malicious code. These guys have built up quite a good reputation, and many people trust them to write useful, non-malicious code. If they did start shipping something iffy, they'd (ideally) quickly lose all of that good reputation, but not before doing quite a lot of harm as people updated. GPG doesn't protect against the authors going rogue, but against someone else maliciously trying to take advantage of this software's good reputation. SSL protects me against a straightforward MITM, but doesn't assert that the server is still under full control of the author and doesn't protect mirrors.
- stuaxo 13y agoHave they fixed the CPU issue? https://github.com/Kilian/f.lux-indicator-applet/issues/7 https://github.com/Kilian/f.lux-indicator-applet/issues/7 I really like f.lux but I do seem to get weird problems on some machines, apart from the above problem I've experiences severe flicker on some machines, others are fine.
- easy_rider 13y agoI am happy with Redshift, as with everyone else finding f.lux on Linux buggy. F.lux is missing the boat on a lot of developers I'm guessing :) Mac people don't work nights anyway, when Starbucks is closed, so I don't see the point..
- chippy 13y agoalso can verify that F.lux doesn't work on my machine 12.04 ubuntu - could be the graphics driver. But Redshift works, and is open source.
- easy_rider 13y agof.lux kinda works on linux. I.e. when I start it my screen turns yellow, and that's about it. I can switch between colors by testing the 3 options with the test button (sometimes this works). But other than that its not really usable. Now Redshift.. I didn't even notice it was turned on now, toggled it off and my eyes started bleeding. Still have to set my location and setup a config file, but happy so far. In any case way better than a broken GUI that F.lux offers. Anyway, nothing to take away from f.lux as they've come up with the original idea. Way way better than wearing those yellow tinted glasses that make you see blue all over after a good session.
- Achshar 13y agoCan I have a shortcut for disabling for an hour? Or maybe toggle the setting when I doubleclick the tray icon in windows? That would be really cool, I use the toggle so often and single double- click/shortcut seem so much better than two clicks.
- meryn 13y agoDoes anyone else have trouble understanding (or "intuitively reading") the graph in the f.lux beta preferences? I discovered that's a kind of "ego-centric" graph. I mean ego-centric just like there once where earth-centric (and later) helio-centric models of the universe. Because the graph is totally ego-centric, the graph starts when you wake up. I just can't wrap my head around that. In my mind, I wake up at a specific clock time, and the universe is configured in a certain way at this particular moment. In particular, the sun has a certain position in the sky. (interestingly, I use an earth-centric model in this regard). What's (relatively) constant for me is how the sun moves through the sky (this depends on where you live on earth, plus time of year). Obviously, it's beyond my powers to change the time of year. I could change where I live on earth, but I'm not doing that very often. What's directly controlled by me is when I wake and go to bed... Why can't I change these positions on an otherwise static "map"? I don't want to express the current year as relative to my life either. I.e. three periods: "the time I hadn't been born yet", "the time that I live", "the time beyond when I died". It's rather insane. Yes, we use Jesus date of birth as a reference point now, you could say that it's bad and we should count from a different epoch or so, but at least things are not expressed relative to my life.
- meryn 13y agoThe point I was trying to make is that I see this graph as doing something comparable to saying you're (by definition) born in "the year zero, at 00:00:00".
- esMazer 13y agoI don't know about any of the "sleep benefits" but as someone that works and enjoys being in front of computers 10+ hours a day, is great! As soon as I got it 3+ years ago my red-eye, eye-discomfort, dry-eye and strained-eye conditions disappeared! I can't use the computer without it (day or night)
- roryokane 13y agoThe new version number is 26.0. I’m noting this because when I first tried to install the program by overwriting the version in my Applications folder, it was still my old version (23) that ran for some reason. If you don’t see any difference after installation, open “About f.lux” and make sure you’re on version 26.0.
- Jugurtha 13y agoI used to sleep in a room on the roof and leave the door open. The sun would be facing me just when it's up and I'd wake up early. It was great. But even when I changed room, I didn't close curtains or something, so the sun would directly be in my face when it's up, and I'd wake up and start the day.. But a lot of the time, I'd be up before the sun going up (up by 4h30, work out, take a shower, eat breakfast (steak, eggs, half a liter of milk, some fruits) and start the day. I'd see people have low battery by 11h00 and I'd be throbbing with energy until the very last moments when I come home. I drank a RedBull only once in my entire 26 years of existence, and it was only this year. I didn't like it.