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Storage Space Doubled For All Linode VPS plans
- bfrog 13y agoSweeeeeeeeet
- xoe26 13y agoThis is excellent news. I've had a VPS on Linode for a couple of years now and the only thing that was really lacking was the disk space.
- earlz 13y agoAnd this is why I love Linode. I have been paying $20/month for around 3 years. At first I had 256M of RAM and 12G of harddrive space... and now I have 1G of RAM and 48G of harddrive space. I dare you to look at other providers and see if they have offered such aggressive, yet free, upgrades
- walnut20 13y agoFor $20/month, Digital Ocean provide 2GB memory, 2 cores, 40GB SSD disk and 3TB transfer.
- toomuchtodo 13y agoAnd they don't have a poor track record with regards to handling security breaches.
- mindstab 13y ago... they are kind of too new to have a track record one way or the other aren't they? Same for the hardware. they are the new kids on the block. For now it's the newest and shiniest but long term lets see how they keep pace. Linode's been around a while and done a good job of dragging all it's customer's along to newer hardware.
- toomuchtodo 13y agoNo track record > Systematically failing to handle multiple breaches properly.
- perryh2 13y agoThe people behind DigitalOcean have been around for a while with ServerStack, the parent company. The main engineers also used to work at another major cloud hosting company.
- opendais 13y agohttp://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/digitalocean/?cid=co6834744 http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/digitalocean/?c... I'm not seeing how this is a record superior to Linode. That said, I use DO due to its price point for hobby/testing projects and dropped Linode completely.
- LordIllidan 13y agoMeanwhile, $20 a month at digitalocean gets you 2G of RAM and 40 Gb of ssd. Not to diss Linode, I use them myself, but they're not the cheapest. It's quite evident to me that these free upgrades are a defensive tactic. How much memory or disk space would $20 a month get from other providers 3 years ago?
- clicks 13y agoI switched to DO a few months ago, ... and just recently switched back to Linode. I'll pay the extra few bucks for reliability and decent uptime. I had very frequent downtimes and the support was often unhelpful. I heard from others that it was just the datacenter that my VPS was on and other DC weren't as bad, but I guess it gave me enough of a bad impression that I went back to Linode anyway.
- forsaken 13y agoI'm using it non-production things, and have had a similar experience. I'm in the SFO data center, and I've lost connectivity to the machine at least 5 times in the past month.
- sumukh1 13y agoI've had the same issues and it's preventing me from using it for anything serious. A lot of the other things with DO (provisioning, backup, snapshots) are great but the network seems to the biggest issue at the SF datacenter.
- grahamedgecombe 13y agoI suspect DigitalOcean have more virtual servers per physical machine than Linode do, which is probably why they can offer cheaper prices. This means you probably won't be able to use as much CPU power and I/O (more people contending for the same resources.)
- kintamanimatt 13y agoThe other thing about DigitalOcean is they haven't rolled out IPv6 or private IPs yet. They did seem to promise a release date for the former several months ago. I asked them about this yesterday and after I pressed the issue the rep snapped at me and told me that I didn't understand how difficult it is! Linode it is!
- gigamike 13y agoI have both Linode and DO instances but I have lots of reliability issues with my DO instance. I usually have 5-7 minutes per day where it is unreachable by my offsite Nagios host which also monitors my Linode instance. My Linode instance has had 3 minutes of unreachability in the past 30 days.
- gamegoblin 13y agoI've used prgmr.com for a while now and am pretty content with it. That being said, I am not running anything mission critical on it, so the occasional hiccups are a pretty easy price to pay for a super cheap VPS. I pay $8 a month for 256MiB RAM, 6GiB HD, and 40GiB transfer. As far as price points go on the larger plans, Linode currently has the advantage in transfer and disk space. I'll be interested to see if prgmr increases it to compete.
- lsc 13y agoPlans are in the works to respond to Linode and Digital Ocean. Plans have been in the works for... some time now; but... yeah. My 'automation debt' is absolutely killing me here. (lack of capital isn't helping much, either, but right now, insufficient automation, and my inherent conservatism are probably the biggest problems.) I'm doing existing customers first, of course, and starting with customers that I promised upgrades to a long time ago, which is actually slowing the whole process down quite a lot. Another interesting thing is that right now, I charge a $4/account charge, then a incremental fee, right now $1 for every 64mib ram/1.5gb disk, which means that as you get a larger plan, you get more stuff for your money. As far as I can tell, none of the other players do that (and some competitors do the opposite, giving you more resources per dollar on the smaller plans than on the larger plans.) - so I am wondering if I should reduce or eliminate that fee.
- _delirium 13y agoIt seems like transfer would be an 'easy' upgrade in that it doesn't require a lot of per-server manual effort, just a change to the billing system (threshold at which accounts are billed for overages). But I dunno if that makes sense, given purchasing decisions and your cost structure. Are people's purchase decisions keying off transfer quota at all, or are RAM/HDD are the real price-point issues? And if they are, would doubling transfer, say, make a difference, or would you have to match Linode (currently offering 10x the transfer at equivalent price points)? So maybe this is a dumb idea.
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- geuis 13y agoDear Linode: I fucking love you. I was a loyal Slicehost user until Rackspace bought and ruined them. I should have switched to Linode long before that. My dearest hope is that Rackspace doesn't buy them too.
- sillysaurus 13y agoCounterpoint: Linode is incompetent at security. $228,000 worth of bitcoins were stolen because Linode's admin interface was compromised by an attacker. The reason you probably haven't heard about it is because Linode never publicly acknowledged that it happened, as far as I know. Those are two serious black marks against the credibility of Linode. Use at your own risk. http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/03/bitcoins-worth-228000-stolen-from-customers-of-hacked-webhost/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/03/bitcoins-worth-22800...
- grey-area 13y agoOut of curiosity, what's your preferred vps provider?
- dchuk 13y agoWhile the security breach is a big problem, it seems like storing $228,000 worth of bitcoins on a server that can be attacked from the internet is a bad idea.
- sillysaurus 13y agoIt was a bitcoin trading platform. Many bitcoins had to be accessible by a sever. It wasn't the platform's fault that they lost the bitcoins. Linode's admin interface was the attack vector. This is roughly equivalent to getting robbed because your landlord left your apartment's master key under a doormat.
- gtCameron 13y agoTo continue that analogy, its roughly equivalent to keeping $200k cash in a briefcase the floor of your apartment instead of in a safety deposit box at the bank.
- thedeepself 13y agoI've been paying $20/month since about 2009 and it just keeps getting better and better! And not to mention uptime and great support channel!
- segmondy 13y agoI'm a linode user and not impressed. They are just keeping up with the competition. ram/cpu/storage prices are always falling, so their prices have to fall or resources increased to compete. They won't cut their prices as that will cut into revenue, so they increase resources.
- kintamanimatt 13y agoI can understand their tactic. Competing on price isn't always the best strategy and it tends to attract poorer quality customers that are harder to maintain. In any event, why shouldn't they charge a price that helps them remain profitable and fiscally healthy, rather than engage in a race to the bottom in terms of price? A race to the bottom almost always results in poor quality service -- think airlines. Plus, competing on support at a "premium" price is generally a good idea; not everybody wants the cheapest.
- gtaylor 13y agoAs a fellow Linode user, I find this to be a pretty silly comment. This will save some customers a little bit of money and provide some storage breathing room. It's an important latest step to firm up their offerings, and I commend them for consistently doing so over time. If you think Linode is a good value for the money, continue using them. If you don't, go somewhere else. I don't think anyone here cares whether you're impressed.
- threeseed 13y agoIt works both ways you know. Nobody here cares that you're not impressed. The point is valid though that due to falling component prices it is expected that Linode will either increase resources or decrease price.
- ericd 13y agoIt's actually pretty common for hosts to keep charging the same prices for a server you rent in perpetuity, until you order a new server and migrate. I'd say Linode has been above average in that regard.
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- whalers 13y agoIt's frustratingly difficult to find a high-storage VPS at an affordable price. This announcement by Linode is a start. But I think the market has a ways to go yet.
- secabeen 13y agoYou can back your way into one at Dreamhost. Their shared hosting plans are unlimited disk/unlimited bandwidth for web-related data. Then add a VPS to that. You still get the same disk/bandwidth allocation. If you get really big, there's probably some throttling, but it works well for me. I have over 500GB of data stored there.
- bradleyland 13y agoDreamhost's policy is that your storage space is unlimited only for files related to the sites you're hosting with them. Not to mention, availability of Dreamhost's shared plans is, well, a nightmare. Don't get me wrong, it's still a bargain, but you get what you pay for.
- jevin 13y agoI was in the same situation a few months back and I remember reading about mounting an Amazon S3 Bucket on a VPS. Did you consider that? I never actually went through with the idea, but it's definitely on my things-to-do-when-bored list!
- opendais 13y agohttp://buyvm.net/ http://buyvm.net/ - Their storage VMs are pretty good, I only use it for backups tho. I'm not sure if that helps you at all.
- Veratyr 13y agoI did a comparison of price per GB of cheap VPS hosts recently and BuyVM is the best. I'm with http://budgetvm.com/ http://budgetvm.com/ myself because for the same price (as a BuyBM box), you get a ton more RAM and CPU. The problem here is they're running OpenVZ, which among other things, doesn't support certain iptables (firewall) functions. Also you sacrifice disk space. But for the application I'm running (Riak cluster), memory is important too.
- freehunter 13y agoI had been a Linode customer for years, but I had to drop them when I lived through two security incidents where there was an almost complete lack of response by the Linode staff. They've completely lost my trust. I work in the information security industry, and I know the reality that almost everyone will get hacked eventually. I don't blame them for getting hacked. I blame their poor incident response plan. For my purposes, I just can't depend on an infrastructure provider who isn't brave enough to tell me up front that they made a mistake, or if they tell me "don't worry, the attackers weren't after your information!" Because next time, they might be. You're going to have to do better than incremental upgrades to convince me to come back.
- opendais 13y agoCan you provide an example? Every time someone says that I've noticed either: A) They missed the public notification. B) Their security expectations aren't in line with a VPS environment where everything is controlled through a WAN control mechanism. [e.g. $200k worth of bitcoins stolen...why on earth aren't you using a colo box with your own dedicated hardware that you can be certain is as secure as you can possibly make it. That is something you can do with $2k and at most $200/month.]
- WestCoastJustin 13y agoWhat the hell are you talking about? a) Linode was extremely cavalier in releasing a public notification. It was all over slashdot and in their support channel, with ZERO notification from them (till long after the fact), leaving the community to assume the worst, which was inline with what actually happened.
- threeseed 13y agoThis is complete and utter nonsense. I was a Linode customer during their first security incident (Bitcoins stolen). I found out about it through Reddit. It was communicated to customers weeks after through a post to their status page. At no stage were customers informed via email and nobody knows to this day what exactly happened and what exactly has been done about it.
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- ck2 13y agoIf OVH ever brings that $27 i5 dedicated to the US (CA) datacenter, VPS providers are in trouble.
- Veratyr 13y agoThey have $39 ones :) https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/kimsufi.xml https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/kimsufi.xml I wish they'd let Australians buy them... They actually forbid you from buying outside your country.
- ck2 13y agoOnly the K2 $50 one listed there is equal to the 16G, not the K1 The 16G is effectively half the price. And I believe people buy ovh servers in other countries all the time for backups, maybe you need an account with them first in your own country (but they are not in AUS I guess?)
- xutopia 13y agoWhy would anyone use them over DigitalOcean? What's the advantage? Am I missing out on something?
- gr2020 13y agoA couple of concrete things come to mind - 1. DO has no private network; all traffic between your nodes occurs via your public interface. In fairness, it looks like they're working on this (http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3020028-private-back-end-network-support http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocea...). 2. Linode's NodeBalancers are super handy if you need load balancing, and don't want to run your own. There are certainly some things I wish they could do (alerting comes to mind), but they're a heck of a lot better than running my own.
- barik 13y agoI'm a customer of both DigitalOcean as well as Linode. I use DigitalOcean for random experiments and side projects and Linode for production sites. I haven't directly observed any practical differences in ways that affect me in terms of VPS infrastructure itself, but I've found Linode's support to be significantly better and I'm willing to pay a premium for that on "sites that matter". I don't want to imply that DigitalOcean's support is bad -- it's not, but I feel they're average when compared with Linode responses. On the other hand, my impressions may be biased since I rarely have to contact support in the first place. I'd be interested in whether or not others have had the same experience in terms of customer support.
- davidw 13y agoI wrote this a while back: http://www.welton.it/articles/webhosting_market_lemons http://www.welton.it/articles/webhosting_market_lemons Part of the problem is that it's very easy to compare on price, but difficult to compare on service. I think my conclusions may not be quite as valid today, because news gets around so quickly, but I think the concept is a worthwhile one to think about. Anecdotally, I've been very happy with Linode's service: a few months ago, I had some kind of problem and things weren't booting. Panic! I sent in a support ticket, and went to their IRC channel right away. I started describing the problem, and one of the guys in the channel says "oh, I think I just answered that", and indeed, the support ticket had already been answered with real, helpful information. My interaction with them has usually been quite positive.
- Aldo_MX 13y agoTo be honest I would never trust my credit card number to linode again.
- eropple 13y agoWhy? You lose nothing if it's compromised. That's the bank's worry.
- JohnTHaller 13y agoIt's not even the bank's worry. It's the merchant's worry. They're on the hook for everything spent with a stolen credit card. The bank and cardholder and the ones who exposed are off the hook for everything.
- Aldo_MX 13y agoFor starters, I had to pay for the replacement card...
- xxpor 13y agoWhat kind of shitty bank do you have?
- BadassFractal 13y agoThe question I keep asking everybody is: "Where do I host my Postgres if I want to have the option to grow disk without paying for higher VM tier?". Specifically assuming I'm managing Postgres myself, not going through Heroku etc. So far only AWS seems to give you that option.
- opendais 13y agoI believe Linode used to have the option to attach extra storage but you'd still need to reformat, merge, etc. Personally, for high diskspace growth needs, I just use a dedicated where I can just get them to throw additional disks in with little to no downtime.
- SpenserJ 13y agoThey still have that option, but you're limited to an additional 12GB (at least on the 2GB plan). Costs $1/mo per GB that you add on.
- rorrr2 13y agoIf you want tons of disk space, just get a cheap dedicated server. OVH has a 2TB one for $39/month. Hetzner has auctioned dedicated servers with 160GB space for 21 euro ($27.8) and 640GB for 23 euro ($30.4).
- desireco42 13y agoI think DigitalOcean is next shiny hosting thing :), even without this security thing everyone keeps reminding me.
- chris_mahan 13y agoThis thread reminds me of webhostingtalk.com.
- JimWillTri 13y agoEvery time I upgrade I lose email functionality. Anyone having the same problem?
- lurien 13y agoI've recently started hosting with 6sync and been very happy with their services so far. It's a lot lighter on documentation and has fewer users than linode. But functionality and performance is there.
- danneu 13y agoEveryone interested in web dev should own a VPS. After a year working at a Rails shop that deploys to Heroku, I decided it's time to learn some sysadmin basics. Here are some things I've done the past couple months that might give other noobs some ideas. - Make aliases for most Linux commands. Abstract Linux into a simple interface of aliases that you can browse in your .zshrc/.bashrc/fish.config. Linux becomes much more enjoyable when you can type `untar <file>` instead of remembering the magical incantation `sudo tar -xzvf <file>`. Make aliases for everything. nginx-reload. nginx-restart. alias z="vim ~/.zshrc && source ~/.zshrc". I even abstract apt-get commands into ag-install, ag-update, ag-remote, etc. - Use dropbox cli, a shared folder with dotfiles, and symlinks to keep dotfiles synced between your server(s) and laptop(s). - Install tmux on it so that you can `$ tmux attach` to a persistent shell so that things still run when you close your remote connection and they're still there when you log back in. - Run weechat (terminal irc client) in tmux so that you never have to log out of irc again. - Learn how to rsync up and down files from your server. - rsync your Sinatra app (or whatever) onto your server and run it on port 5000, immediately see it live. - Install nginx and have your VPS serve multiple domain names, each domain name pointing to a Sinatra app running on port 5000, 5001, and 5002. - Run each website in its own tmux tab. At the beginning it's easier to reason about a foreground process than some daemonized process. - Install postgres or whatever database you use to your VPS. Get your db-driven app to connect to it. Connect to your remote db using your favorite db gui. - Take notes of all the commands you use to set up each component so that you can refer to them later, see how you might have messed up. - Learn enough bash/zsh/fish to automate all of those commands. Polish it enough so that you can curl your script from a Github gist on a fresh VPS and it will set up your entire environment. - Install `htop` as a nice overview of your server's stats and the processes that are running. Run it in another tmux tab. My tmux right now has a tab for weechat (irc), tabs for my Clojure apps, and an htop tab. On Friday nights I pretend I'm NASA mission control. - Learn how to use the `ssh` command to reverse tunnel a connection from your VPS to an app you're running on your local machine for a fast development feedback loop. - Learn how to use your VPS to encrypt your connection when you're working at coffee shops. I'm still a noob but I leveled up considerably from this quest arc. I highly recommend. I still don't have a raging clue about most of Linux, even stuff like what all the folders are supposed to be for: /var/opt /etc/www /usr/local /usr/shared/local ... etc. and why files go the places they go, but it's all an iterative process. Email me (profile) if you need help with any of the bullet points. I am trying to shape it into a more helpful blog post to share with other noobs.
- seunosewa 13y agoStill no SSD option? As the owner of a top forum, I think IOPs are far more important than gigabytes.
- kintamanimatt 13y agoA lot of your woes would be solved by in memory caching.
- jacques_chester 13y agoIf it's a LAMP app, then not really. If you have tables with TEXT fields, MySQL up to and including 5.5 will perform certain joins with on-disk tables no matter what you tell it to do and will ignore indexes you create to prevent that on-disk stupidity. This behaviour is independent of engine. Being I/O choked on Linode is why I moved to DigitalOcean.
- ceol 13y agoIt sounds like you should have moved from MySQL to PostgreSQL instead of switching hosting providers.
- jacques_chester 13y agoPlease call me when Wordpress and thousands of plugins and themes have been expunged of all MySQLisms. Otherwise, heartily agreed.
- ceol 13y agoAhh, Wordpress. You have my deepest sympathies. If you don't mind my asking, is there some key feature of Wordpress or its plugins that holds you to it? I'm always interested to hear why people stick with it.
- jacques_chester 13y ago
- justplay 13y agoIs it because of competition or prices goes down?
- aioprisan 13y agoit's good to see more space but it would be nice to see IOPS options
- shitlord 13y agoWhat got hacked this time?
- fiatmoney 13y agoHere's a question: where can I get a VPS with a large amount (multiple TB) of not-necessarily-fast storage? It seems like someone out there should have a SAN-backed VPS, yet I've had trouble locating one.
- ceol 13y agoAt that point, you should be using S3 or something similar.
- ianmcgowan 13y agohttps://backupsy.com/ https://backupsy.com/ $80/mo for 2TB. Deals floating around as well as "40% Off For Life Coupon: 40PERCENT" on the home page. Just signed up with them, and they are having problems with credit card billing, so only feedback so far is they seem responsive to tickets...