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Show HN: Hacker News, without AI
- loldidntwork 15d agoTop article is about AI eliminating jobs, nice attempt tho
- postalcoder 15d agoWhere?
- TouchGrass 15d agoThis site can’t be reached The connection was reset. Try: Checking the connection Checking the proxy and the firewall ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
- postalcoder 15d agoI'm guessing this is a cloudflare issue? Try again, I turned bot protection off. The site was getting flooded by requests from bot scrapers.
- TouchGrass 13d agoWorking now!
- Gualdrapo 15d agoFirst one atm is about HuggingFace.
- niyonx 15d agoGreat use of AI
- chilipepperhott 15d agoThis one actually works: https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai
- postalcoder 15d agoI see like ten stories on this page.
- vanschelven 15d agocount yourself lucky, tomorrow it will be 9
- basch 15d agostill prefer the simplicity of a reverse river, with a focus on votes and comments https://hckrnews.com/ https://hckrnews.com/ its incredibly easy to immediately tell when something was posted, and how popular it was. there s no automagic rearranging or movement. similar to https://techmeme.com/river https://techmeme.com/river
- postalcoder 15d agoOpen up the settings bar at the top and set the story layout to "hckr". That layout is directly inspired by hckrnews.com.
- basch 15d agoNice. The word "show" threw me off, given it is on the far right and the cog is on the far left. Menu, settings, config etc would make more sense.
- postalcoder 15d agoGreat feedback. After all this time I just realized a lot of people may not even know that menu exists. It's been like that for so long I'm literally blind to it.
- dorkrawk 15d agoFor Hacker News without AI, can I suggest the domain of news.ycombntor.com ?
- snarf21 15d ago[flagged]
- postalcoder 15d agoBehold, the power of suggestion: https://news.ycombntor.com https://news.ycombntor.com
- Perepiska 13d agoLooks like redirect to https://hcker.news/?ai=exclude https://hcker.news/?ai=exclude
- ant6n 15d agoTook me a while to get this one.
- postalcoder 15d agoJust a few high level points about how this works. It works in multiple stages: 1. I apply a domain and keyword filter to the feed 2. The content of the remaining articles are run twice daily through a Modern Bert-based classifier fine-tuned to detect AI-related content (~8000 training examples)[0]. It also filters out Github repos that contain AI authorship. My backend scans: - Commit messages for agent attribution - The contributor graph for agents - Repo files for instructions/configs RSS feed here: https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=exclude https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=exclude HN Frontpage minus AI: https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&ai=exclude https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&ai=exclude You may also like Small Web HN: https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&smallweb=include https://hcker.news/?view=frontpage&smallweb=include 0: The original workflow for this was a little different. For the better part of the past year, I had an AI agent detect AI-related stories and raise ~20 stories to me to make a judgement call on. After a while, a workflow like this just doesn't make sense when small models can do it equally as well. The training data is based on the machine and my labeling.
- bananaflag 15d agoFunny how it uses AI
- postalcoder 15d agoEthical, grass-fed AI!
- NeedNewForums 15d agoI like AI just hate Claude and Anslopic ads 24/7
- vova_hn2 15d agoI think you should make it clear, that when you say "without AI" you mean AI-related content, because some people in the comments seem to think that this is about AI-generated content.
- RIMR 15d agoThe first link is about HuggingFace, lmao.
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- account42 15d agoFirst post shown right now is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49659245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49659245 which is essentially an ad for an AI company. So I guess this will need further fine tuning.
- amelius 15d agoMaybe use AI to filter the posts? :)
- busymom0 15d agoHere's how mine looks using my method: https://imgur.com/a/P1qMIok https://imgur.com/a/P1qMIok 9 out of 30 posts have been removed. Steps: Install uBlock Origin Lite. Then create a custom filter: news.ycombinator.com##tr.athing:has(a:has-text(/\b(?:A\.?I\.?|A\.?G\.?I\.?|LLMs?|GPTs?|TPU|NPU|RAG|MoE|RLHF|xAI)\b|Anthropic|agent|super-?intelligence|Blackwell|Cerebras|ChatGPT|Claude|Cohere|Command\s*R|Context\s*window|Copilot|Cursor|DALL-E|deep\s*learning|DeepSeek|ElevenLabs|Fine-tun(?:e|ing)|Flux|Gemini|GenAI|Generative|Gemma|Grok|Groq|H100|Hallucination|harness(?:es)?|Hugging\s*Face|LangChain|Llama|LlamaIndex|Midjourney|Mistral|Ollama|OpenAI|OpenRouter|Perplexity|prompt|Qwen|Runway\s*(?:AI|ML)|Gen-[1-4](?:\.5)?|Sora|Synthetic\s*data|token|vibecod|vLLM|Whisper/i)):xpath(. | following-sibling::tr[1]) Any improvements to above filter are welcome.
- layer8 15d agoIf you prefer something closer to the original layout: https://www.unslop.news/ https://www.unslop.news/
- otherayden 15d agoThank you for sharing my site :)
- layer8 15d agoThank you for basically only filtering and not changing the style. :)
- gonzalohm 15d agoDo you know if there is a way of pointing any of the hackernews phone apps to your site instead of the official one?
- otherayden 15d agoI don't personally use those apps so I'm not sure, but if they're open source I'm confident you could easily update them to work with my site. In case it's useful, here's the source code https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai
- toomuchtodo 15d agoHuh, perhaps there is a project to be done to consume the HN firehose and serve it AT Proto style from the firehose. HN mobile clients can then pick the feed they want. AI? No AI? Politics? No politics? Frameworks? No frameworks? Choose your own HN post feed adventure. Read replica esq consumption, writes (comments, posts, votes) go to the primary data store (HN).
- postalcoder 15d agoYou can do a lot of this stuff w/ the feed builder on hcker.news.
- visarga 15d agoDo you have one but only with AI? like, a toggle on what side to see? Edit: ah yes, sure it exists
- postalcoder 15d agoI'm thinking you saw it but yeah, you can only have AI news if you invert the argument: https://hcker.news/?ai=include https://hcker.news/?ai=include
- jrm4 15d agoThis feels like trying to do "Hacker News, without 'the Internet.'"
- NeedNewForums 15d agoPeople were actually complaining specifically about OpenAI/Anthropic glazing and the countless influencer comments and posts here every hour. And it's getting twisted into "People want HN without AI." But that was never the case. I mean some surely do. But the blow-up this morning was specific to Anthropic ads to the point there's basically no information on this website that isn't related to Anthropic or OpenAI. If it was announced some rando kid made a LLM in PHP or something, sure share it! If it was announced someone actually made something cool with AI (lol) then share it! But Claude 24/7 aint it. It's at least extremely boring!
- jessetemp 15d agoThere is also the hide button under every post, which I’ve started using generously. It only takes a few seconds to clean up the front page to your taste
- datakan 15d agoI'm mixed on that. Definitely topics I hide when I think people can't discuss them like adults, but sometimes even bad stories have some great discussions in them.
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- gdulli 15d agoI have a cron job that logs in and hides stuff based on a big list of keywords and domains I'm not interested in.
- sejje 15d agoTop story: huggingface
- throwaway613746 15d ago[dead]
- bronlund 15d agoThis is like; during a war, when you just want to read the news without anything about the war :D
- armchairhacker 15d ago“Keep Calm and Carry On”? TIL it was rare in the actual wartime (WWII) and only became popular in 2000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On
- Tepix 15d agoYou need to search deeper! Looking at the iPod 6G QEMU emulation story: > "With the help of Claude Code, I was able to create code to extract it using emCORE."
- ranger_danger 15d agoDepends on what you want "without AI" to mean... is it just stories about AI, or anything that an AI has touched at all? Or purely vibe-coded projects?
- nonsensical_ 15d agoI prefer lobste.rs for this.
- ChrisArchitect 15d agoWe just did this last month; Stick to sharing your thing in the current thread today: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850
- tcfhgj 15d agoHacker News, without AI needs to be a plugin for Firefox - I don´t really want to use two pages at the same time.
- nilsherzig 15d agoIf a Userscript solution is fine for you, see my recent comments :)
- nilsherzig 15d agoadded a firefox extension :)
- postalcoder 15d agoThen just use one! https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hcker-news/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hcker-news/
- nilsherzig 15d agoHere is an approach to filtering LLM written content: https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/ https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/ Instead of filtering keywords this ranks the content using Pangram. But it's also pretty effective at filtering content about AI. Turns out that a lot of LLM tooling projects have LLM written project descriptions/blog posts. It's amazing to see how many of the "AI hurts my brain" posts are apparently written by an LLM.
- nilsherzig 15d agonvm sorry, just read the "how this works" comment from OP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49660301 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49660301 OPs solution does more than keyword filtering. But its still about filtering out "content about ai" not filtering out "ai written content".
- adrianwaj 15d agoGreat point. I think the key is differentiating between "prompt generated" content vs "AI as a Topic" content and then being able to toggle them at will. I am not averse to prompt-generated content, but it should be marked and quoted as such, just like any other reference. If it's not, it's like the author is double-cheating. In fact there are no shortage of comments here on HN, especially open-ended questions that could've been plugged into a bot for an answer. Avoiding LLMs altogether is foolhardy. It's a matter of balance, and being able to write a good prompt is a skill - no mental atrophy there. Content derived from non-English sources using English-based LLMs is also an interesting area. [1] It's possible to obtain AIaaT from https://aibriefs.news/ https://aibriefs.news/ and then prune it elsewhere if need be. But the best aggregators like that may be machine-generated with a lot of human moderation. I wonder if that is 100% machine generated. Likewise, HN-AI could well be a decent site. [1] How much content can be derived from non-English sources using LLMs? https://share.gemini.google/ObjMQHCj8JWj https://share.gemini.google/ObjMQHCj8JWj"
- postalcoder 15d agoNice! I was considering doing this but the Pangram API is very expensive. Then I considered training my own model and I fortunately stopped at the edge of that rabbit hole.
- verdverm 15d agoIs it still hacker news if you manipulate the listing based on your own bias? I suppose it depends on what point of view we answer from. It is very hacker-newsery to make something like this
- mpalmer 15d agoI quite like this, particularly that the filter is just a preset! Will be back. Minor UI feedback - when navigating comments (and maybe other stuff) with the keyboard, the actual focus change is blocked behind some automated scroll behavior, and the effect is that someone quickly hitting keybinds will collapse the wrong thread. Would suggest making the focus change happen concurrently.
- postalcoder 15d agoThanks for the feedback. Comment drawer nav could be a lot better. I started working on the keyboard nav but got distracted with other things. I'll fix it.
- sochowski 15d agoi can't tell if the slop ui or the slop posts are worse
- grandwizardmarv 15d agoGood idea but needs a stronger filter
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- flashu 15d agoFinally, I am really sick of eye-based filtering AI trash
- thisisauserid 15d agoIronically, this is trivial to build with LLMs.
- dr_kiszonka 15d agoThis is much better than I anticipated. I don't mind AI that much, but this version of HN surfaces really interesting articles I've missed.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 15d agoWithout Javascript https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=exclude https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=exclude https://hcker.news/feeds/json?period=week&ai=exclude https://hcker.news/feeds/json?period=week&ai=exclude More info about parameters https://hcker.news/feeds https://hcker.news/feeds
- dsiegel2275 15d agoWould have been much better if it simply rendered a blank page.
- sajithdilshan 15d agoAt this rate we would have at least new one vibe coded site like this per week trying to filter AI posts. People truly have tokens to burn
- postalcoder 15d agoI've been serving this to users for the past year. I like to believe that i've inspired others.
- ares623 15d agolet's fast forward to the part where the general public can make their own "Facebook, without Ads"
- ragall 15d agoIt looks nice but I can't load any comments, and I believe it's because I have Firefox's Enhanced Tracking Protection turned on to the strictest level.
- postalcoder 15d agoHm, I couldnt reproduce on firefox mac. Which version of firefox are you on? can you open the network inspector to see if you're hitting the api?
- ragall 15d agoFirefox 155.0.1 Linux/x86_64 with uBlock Origin enabled. https://static.cloudflareinsights.com/beacon.min.js https://static.cloudflareinsights.com/beacon.min.js is blocked by uBlock, while https://hcker.news/api/reply-notifications/config https://hcker.news/api/reply-notifications/config and https://hcker.news/api/comments/49662990?include_user_stats=true https://hcker.news/api/comments/49662990?include_user_stats=... return 403. Perhaps it's Cloudflare that's doing the blocking.
- postalcoder 14d agoFixed it, it should work now.
- narrator 15d agoI know you guys hate X/Twitter but the muted words feature is really awesome for this kind of thing. You never have to hear about a topic you don't give a crap about ever again.
- postalcoder 15d agoyou can essentially mute words on hcker.news. You can set exclusion filters in the settings. Those can be turned into rss feeds as well.
- d3Xt3r 15d agoWould if be possible to set up push notifications for new stories matching a filter - one that's separate to the main filter? Like say, I want to get notified every time an article about "Linux" is posted. But if I go to main page, I want to see all stories (or whatever my main filter is set to).
- postalcoder 15d agoYeah, all possible, the infra for all of that is set up. I think I understand your request but can u send me an email so I can talk it through with you a little more?
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- osquar 14d agoDoes it use AI to filter AI?
- kakwa_ 14d agoI would love to have hn more curated. The AI spam is part of the issue, but not only. Maybe it's rose tinted glasses, but it feel like HN posts and comments quality have dropped significantly compared to ~5 to 10 years ago. It used to have a lot more really technical subjects, with comments from experts on the topic. Now days it seems to be a lot more of "hot takes with little nuance from people who have read at most half a Wikipedia page on the topic". And the content itself, being more generalist and less specialized, is no longer unique to HN. Quality posts and comments do still occur, but they fill more and more needle in an haystack.