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Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? I don't mind folding. I think it's cool, and a nice way to get a useful space.
by MPSimmons 24d ago
Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them?
I don't mind folding. I think it's cool, and a nice way to get a useful space. But I have big hands, and I can't use my iphone 17 now without two hands. This is even wider before unfolding.
Who wants bigger phones? Who is like, "damn I wish I had a tablet that I could fold up and still barely fit in my pocket"?
I want smaller phones. The width of the iPhone 4 was nearly perfect imo. If they would take modern display technology with approximately that width and expand it to 16:9, I think it would kill, even if it were relatively underpowered compared to the modern top of the line.
- layer8 24d agoThe Duo is also pretty heavy at 254 grams (almost 9 ounces). The Fold8 is only 201 grams.
- calebm 24d agoI'm still on the iPhone 12 mini for this reason.
- dominotw 24d agoi do. i do reading and watching on my ipad mini. i can stop using that if i can get two in one device like this.
- nikanj 24d agoThey released a number of small iphones over the years, and those always failed to reach meaningful sales numbers. Stated vs revealed preference I guess? People keep picking the larger model, so the models keep getting larger
- nonethewiser 24d agoSame with phones with replaceable batteries.
- eddieroger 24d agoAnd headphone jacks.
- mattnewton 24d agoanyone with a pile of dongles disagrees here. It was clearly broken to sell AirPods
- nikanj 24d agoBy most Android vendors too?
- mattnewton 24d agoAndroid flagship vendors added their own wireless earbuds as well
- drum55 24d agoRight, because it scratches some nostalgia thing that people have obtained osmotically. Nobody actually wants a replaceable battery that makes their phone vastly thicker and harder to waterproof, nobody wants phones that randomly catch fire because their OOPLMXC brand battery from amazon wasn’t up to snuff, nobody wants to be carrying a pocket full of extra batteries to swap all day. Devices with field replaceable batteries just sucked a lot more than people don’t remember. As much as people clamor online about how they want these things, given the option they will shy away from it because it doesn’t match the fantasy that’s been created about “what has been taken from us”.
- LoganDark 24d agoI wish I could choose even thicker to get the Pro Max's battery life but with the Pro's ability to be held comfortably. You practically need two hands to take a screenshot with the Pro Max
- cjonas 24d agoI don't follow iphone products, but if it's anything like android this is because they tend to be the lower end models and are missing the features that people really want (mainly a better camera/lens setup). The top of the line models are ALWAYS the bigger phones and if your going for something budget, then you're better off with the Chinese brands for value.
- stefanfisk 24d agoFor the iPhones, the small models were generally very capable. For example, the 13 mini was essentially identical to the regular 13 except for the physical size and battery life: https://www.apple.com/se/xc/iphone/compare?device1=IPHONE13MINI&device2=IPHONE13 https://www.apple.com/se/xc/iphone/compare?device1=IPHONE13M...
- mbreese 24d agoHigh quality camera lenses take space. That alone starts to dictate the size of the phone. Add in the desire for all day battery life, and we start talking more volume. And the fastest chips take more power, so again more battery. The best way to justify the increased size is with a bigger screen and now you’re stuck with a larger phone. Or a smaller phone that is more expensive to produce. In which case, it won’t sell well regardless. It’s easy to see how we got to this point of large phones, but it is not very clear how someone like Apple can make a significantly smaller phone and keep customers happy. As you mentioned, other vendors probably will have better luck.
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- rconti 24d agoWhat is "meaningful"? I was listening to the Accidental Tech Podcast last week and Marco said that the iPhone Air has lower penetration, after 1 year, than EACH of the 12 mini and 13 mini _currently_ have. Among a tech audience. We just had to replace a family 13 mini and it sucks to have to go with a huge modern phone. Personally, I'd also prefer a mini if it had the best cameras.
- nikanj 24d agoEnough to justify major manufacturers to go through the trouble
- dageshi 24d agoI think it's because the people who want the smaller phone don't just want the smaller phone to the exclusion of everything else. Some want a flagship model, some want a mid range, some entry level... all in small form factors and they won't compromise in order to settle for the one small model that's available.
- sroussey 24d agoYou are describing me as well, but our market size is negligible compared to to 50% of the population that throws this thing in a purse.
- torstenvl 24d agoFlatly incorrect. In 2020, the iPhone SE sold over 24 million units. In 2022, sales of iPhone mini 13, iPhone mini 12, and iPhone SE made up 12% of total iPhone sales. Thats despite intentionally nerfing every one of those models. If you look at comparable phones, the iPhone 7 and 8 (4.7") outsold the iPhone 7 Plus and 8 Plus (5.5") by significant margins. Nobody wants large phones.
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- greedo 24d agoSince Apple doesn't release iPhone sales figures per model, I'm suspicious about your sales metrics.
- wat10000 24d ago> 12% > Nobody wants large phones. Be serious. 88% of buyers chose something they don’t want? Apple is saying, “actually we hate money, so we’re not going to make a model that people want to buy”? Why is it so hard for people to accept that maybe their preference isn’t the common one?
- torstenvl 24d agoIf you're not going to engage in good faith then don't engage. My post is right there for anyone to read.
- HDBaseT 24d agoYour command is not engaging in good faith. You seem to believe somehow if Apple produced a higher end, smaller size phone it would magically outsell the higher end larger phone, with no evidence to suggest that. The market, in both Android and iOS land has dictated larger phones are more favored. This is abundantly clear with the advent of "foldable" phone sector. On paper foldable phones make no sense, they are less resistant, more expensive and use a plastic screen, yet the market is growing year on year. I totally respect someone's opinion on a small or large phone, but even the largest iPhone is fairly easy to hold and operate using one hand. I don't have big hands.
- Anechoic 24d agoI know the general consensus is that the mini was cancelled for (relatively) low sales, but I wonder if that was due in part to the release of the SE? I got the SE 2 not because it was cheaper, but because it was smaller. At the time I was on a 2-3 year upgrade cycle, so when the 12 mini was released a couple of months later, I thought "cool, I'll upgrade to the 14 mini when it's released." Of course the mini was canceled after the 13, so I snatched up the 13 and will hold on to it until it crumbles in my hand.
- LoganDark 24d agoThe iPhone 18 Pro has the exact same dimensions as the iPhone 17 Pro. It's only the new iPhone Duo that's bigger.
- synack 24d agoApple Watch with cellular is effectively iPhone mini. There are 3d printable cases to make it into a bar phone. https://makerworld.com/en/models/1022751-watch-phone#profileId-1004458 https://makerworld.com/en/models/1022751-watch-phone#profile...
- Electricniko 24d agoThere are a lot of aluminum cases that transform the watch into an ipod, and some of them are advertised to be used as a phone as well.
- jerlam 24d agoThe Apple Watches have also been getting bigger. The first Apple Watches came in 38mm and 42mm sizes. That "large" Apple Watch is the size of the current "small" Apple Watch (42mm).
- dylan604 24d ago> The Apple Watches have also been getting bigger. A large watch face has always been a style people into watches go for. It's not just a digital smartwatch trend.
- coffeebeqn 24d agoPretty much All watch manufacturers have <40mm models.
- SpicyLemonZest 24d agoThe 42mm measurement on an Apple watch is the lug-to-lug size, which usually corresponds to about 37mm in standard watch size.
- dylan604 24d agoAnd the sky is blue. Your comment does not dispute the fact that larger watch faces is a style people like. Because you don't does not invalidate others do
- sgallant 24d agototally agree with this
- Lord-Jobo 24d agoI really deeply wish they had attempted a profile that was 64mm wide folded and double unfolded. Height is less important. The whole advantage of having any screen at all when folded is something quick to access and *one handable*. Just looking at the Duo, it appears too wide for that by a large amount. If I’m forced to two hand the thing I’ll just get a phablet: no folding mechanism, no unfolding step before using properly, no gigantic price hike (guessing).
- sroussey 24d agoAre you left handed? The rearranging of the UI to provide navigation on the right side of the 5.4” screen seems like it was made for this exact purpose.
- NexRebular 24d ago> Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? Because the common user for some strange reason has come to prefer phablets to mobile phones.
- mywittyname 24d agoA lot of people who are "mobile-only" prefer larger phones. > But I have big hands, and I can't use my iphone 17 now without two hands. I've never been able to use a smart phone with one hand, even an original iphone. So this is probably a really niche complaint that you and Shaq have.
- NamTaf 24d agoCan confirm that I am not Shaq, but the 4S was the last phone I could use entirely one-handed (i.e. my thumb had full reach of the screen whilst my pinkie finger sat under the bottom of the phone, cradling it), and the 13 mini was the last functional size where I could reach at least part of the top of the screen with my thumb.
- markkanof 24d agoI'm not Shaq and I also have this complaint. Moved recently from an iPhone 13 mini which I could easily use with one hand to a iPhone 17 Pro which I can not use with one hand.
- kspacewalk2 24d ago>A lot of people who are "mobile-only" prefer larger phones. And a lot of people who are not prefer smaller ones. >I've never been able to use a smart phone with one hand, even an original iphone. So this is probably a really niche complaint that you and Shaq have. Not in the slightest. I've got a Galaxy A52, a large-ish phone for its time, and I can use it quite easily with one hand. I can't readily think of the small-hands equivalent of Shaq to compose a snarky "it's you" retort, and I'm sure it's not just you, but plenty people around you, with relatively normal hands, can use their phone with one hand.
- hn_acc1 24d agoTo do what? I usually hold it with my left and, and one-finger (right-hand index finger) to type / scroll / select / etc. I guess I never "got" the phone model properly or something. My daughters type way faster on their phones, I can't do thumb typing (how do you hit those letters?!?), plus my thumbs get too sore too fast (decades on the edge of carpal tunnel) and/or cramp up. I was timed at 140+ wpm in high school and online tests / etc have hit close to 200 wpm on a Qwerty. So I CAN touch-type and do it well - and keyboard + mouse is my goto jam. My favorite phone (alas, discontinued way too soon) was the Photon Q (work gave us phones way back) with slide-out physical keyboard. I "use" an S21, but even just entering my 4-digit pin is awkward with my left thumb - is there some other way to hold it? I can't even imagine trying it with my right.. My thumbs just cramp up..
- pier25 24d agoThe size of the iPhone 16e is quite reasonable.
- bob1029 24d agoOne day the stockpiles of iPhone 13 minis will deplete to the point where making new products in that form factor is economically viable. Until then, off to eBay we go. There are more than enough sitting around completely unused. You aren't missing out on much with 5 iPhone generations these days.
- SoftTalker 24d agoYep I'm keeping my 12 mini until it fails. It's absolutely the biggest phone I would ever want. I'd prefer one a bit smaller, actually, as I still cannot reach all points on the screen one-handed, at least not without changing my grip which risks dropping it.
- exographicskip 24d agoLove my 13 mini. Wish they'd 86 the SE and add USB-C to the mini instead. Intrigued by the Duo though
- hnfong 24d agoMain issue would be impending lack of iOS updates, together with increased risk of zero-days due to AI.
- mikepurvis 24d agoI switched off my 13 Mini this year to go to a Pixel 10 for the better Pebble support. I still miss it, it really was the last perfectly-sized phone.
- imafish 24d agoAlso clinging on to my 12 mini in spite of decreasing battery capacity. If there was a 15+ mini, I would’ve upgraded a long time ago.
- thejazzman 24d agoThe 13 mini was a big battery upgrade (as someone who upgraded YoY at the time). So if you scored a 13 mini and a fresh battery you’d probably be overjoyed from that alone I was a mini holdout forever but now it’s hard to imagine giving up the Air’s display
- r0fl 24d agoThe data shows that people want to consume video content on their phones So bigger screens are better That is it. Nothing else.
- dionian 24d agoi tend to watch videso on phone but love to switch to ipad for reading documents.
- tcmart14 24d agoI'd also add that the mobile gaming market on iPhone is the largest individual gaming competitor, at least by the dollars, and bigger screen probably enhances play experiences that can be had on mobile.
- harikb 24d agoWhile I agree on screen size, Apple does give a good amount of thought into application side of things - screen-layout fall into either the iPad like layout or single-column one of a regular phone. This is a bit easier for App developers. Also force-upgrade of OS is also better for those targeting iOS compared to the Android world.
- jhatemyjob 24d agoThe reason they keep getting bigger is because Apple is rotting. When a tech company rots, it gets bloated. That bloat seeps into the products.
- pkulak 24d agoFor me it's fitting the damn thing in my pocket. And unfortunately, width is the main limiter there, making this far WORSE than any other, despite the smaller screen. I can't imagine what this thing would do to your jeans. Apple needs to sell tiny man satchels with this thing.
- mikepurvis 24d agoAgree. The comparison to a passport is ludicrous since a passport can be curled around your leg when it's in a pocket where this obviously cannot.
- chrisco255 24d agoPassports aren't actually very comfortable in the pocket even then. They are clunky things.
- blacksmith_tb 24d agoI gather that for many people, their smartphone is their only computing device. Doesn't have much appeal for me, but if that was the case, I could see that nudging people towards bigger devices, even if it makes them less practical as phones you carry around / try to grasp with one hand.
- raised_by_foxes 24d agoI specifically have an iPhone SE for this reason. I should be able to reach the upper right corner with one hand.
- deaton 24d agoThe problem is people don't buy small phones. ASUS' Zenfone 9 and 10 were, in my opinion, basically perfect; small, someting I can actually hold in my non-athletic hands, but they didn't sell well at all, and ASUS abandoned the small phone market entirely with the Zenfone 11 Ultra.
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- HPsquared 24d agoCars also seem to get bigger with each iteration. Then the introduce new smaller models that are the same size as the earlier model..
- numpad0 24d agoThe phone that grabs most attention always wins. Consumers don't do multi-year procurement processes unlike government agencies selecting a device - they literally gravitate towards bright light and pick up the device on the demo stand. So there's always going to be an arms race of more bigger and ever more glittery phones. That is, until a massive disruption like a flip-phone-to-smartphone transition comes and all those obnoxious peacocks gets instantly wiped out and doves come filling in the void.
- matthoiland 24d agoI don't see it as a bigger phone. It's a new thing. Not a phone. Not a laptop. Not an iPad. It's an agent terminal.
- 01100011 24d agoI like bigger phones. Being over 50, my eyesight is crap and I need a bigger screen. Yeah, I miss one handed operation, but I already accepted that loss years ago. This will be the year I finally switch to apple though(18 pro max, most likely). Bye bye Pixel.
- getsprite 24d agoI think mini phones will have a resurgence.
- speerer 24d ago> Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? Because every time, they want it to be the next big thing.
- FailMore 24d agoI’m still stuck on my iPhone 12 mini because I like the size
- Hamuko 24d ago>Who wants bigger phones? If we go by history, consumers. And when Apple last offered a smaller phone, consumers did not go for it.
- CoolestBeans 24d agoBecause for a lot (most?) people their iPhone is their primary and only personal computer. I also want a smaller phone. I bet Apple designers would love to sell you a smaller phone. They've certainly tried with my beloved and retired iPhone mini and the same size but thinner iPhone air. But the market keeps rejecting it because it's not just a portable companion to some other computer, it is the computer. If you're doing all your work on it then you need more real estate. Aging populations across the globe probably need more screen real estate also for bigger text.
- hedgehog 24d agoThey confused "smaller" with "budget" though, if the good camera was available in the smaller size I would have bought it.
- gambiting 24d agoSame, I look longingly at the Samsung Flip and I'd buy one in a heartbeat if only it had the camera system from the Ultra. I'll even pay the Ultra price+extra for the foldable function. But right now it's in a space where you're paying extra for the fact that it's a foldable, but it feels....budget in its specs? Like...how does that work?
- ACCount37 24d agoCamera blocks take internal volume. Smaller phones have less internal volume to spend - while still having to pack all the non-negotiables like the modem and the SoC into it. Something's got to give. And no one want that something to be the battery life going down to 6 hours. Volume constraints are bad enough for "normal" models. "Minis" have it way worse.
- Jtsummers 24d agoThe iPhone Air's SOC demonstrates that they could compact the actual SOC portion substantially. Add a bit of thickness back for the battery, and they could have a Mini with space for a decent camera and decent battery life. Remove the camera bump by making it a uniform thickness and the battery life would be fine.
- hanz_gruber 24d agoNobody bought the hp veer. Small phones stopped being valuable when phones got good enough to be the only screen a layman would see in a single day. It's now a game of 'movie theater in your pocket.' For better or for worse. Even Samsung offers their 'smaller than a normal phone unfolds to a normal phone' as secondary to the flagship fold. The Flip, to me, is almost marketed as a kid's phone for your teenager.
- anonthrownaway 24d ago>Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? Wait until you get old enough to have to put readers on to use your devices like most older people do. And while I am yelling at the kids on my lawn, let me add every UI/UX person at apple - the idiotic and unnecessary choices they make for the sake of "cool design" infuriate me on a daily basis.
- geodel 24d agoWho wants bigger phones: Tens of millions in higher end market. Who wants smaller phones: Tens of thousands in lower end market.
- wat10000 24d agoPeople act like bigger screens and no headphone jack is some conspiracy. It’s a competitive market. Small phones exist. Headphone jacks exist. They’re obscure because they don’t sell well, because that’s not what most people want. It’s frustrating when you have an uncommon desire for a mass market product, I get it. But the answer to “why do they” is pretty obvious if you can understand that you’re not representative.
- dgellow 24d agoBy that metric they shouldn’t release a folding phone at all, it’s a very niche market
- oblio 24d agoA very niche and growing market that 5 years from now will be 80% of all expensive phones.
- chrisco255 24d agoAgree with this sentiment, after using the Fold 8, I don't want to go back to a phone that doesn't fold.
- wat10000 24d agoEither: 1) Apple thinks it won't be so niche in the future. 2) It's niche but profitable because those buyers who exist will pay a lot. 3) Apple made a foldable iPhone because they don't know what they're doing or they hate money or something. Similarly, Apple doesn't make a small phone because either: 1) It's too niche to be profitable. 2) It could be profitable but those resources are better spent on more popular products. 3) They don't know what they're doing or they hate money or something. And other smartphone companies make foldable phones and not small phones because: 1) Foldables are profitable and small phones aren't. 2) That's not yet true but it's where the market is heading. 3) They all don't know what they're doing or hate money or something. You're arguing for 3?
- flurdy 24d agoYeah. A foldable that is the size of the 12 mini so that you can use it with one hand but still fold out to watch something etc. But instead we got the largest screen before unfolding…
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- aqme28 24d agoI also have huge hands, but a few years ago started to develop a persistent thumb sprain due “reaching” with it across my phone. This is problem that would not have happened if my phone was the size they used to be.
- sowbug 24d agoWhen you're old enough to need reading glasses, larger is better. I'd love a tiny phone. I just can't see it anymore.
- tartoran 24d agoIt's probably a good idea to reduce phone computing to a minimum. Also the larger phone will likely damage your vision to need glasses eventually but there are other ergonomic factors at play. Do you want to hold your phone with two hands? Doesn't it get tiring for wrists to hold the phone in the position? I personally reduced phone usage but am still using a SE2022 which is a small phone. For reading I got a e ink reader and Im very happy with that.
- ejohansson 24d agoFor a second there from the name I was really hopeful that iPhone Duo _could_ have been the replacement for my iPhone 13 Mini.
- azatom 24d ago> Why do they insist on every new phone being bigger than the phones before them? Others wrote complicated or bs jokes, here is my SIMPLE tip: It has to change otherwise people would not buy new. Size can not change randomly so it has 2 ways: decreasing and later it becomes an iwatch, and tablet becomes a phone: this is stupid because harder to increase price. So increase it is. If you do not like it, use a watch+earpiece as a phone.
- cschep 24d agoPresumably they are a trillion dollar company because they know the precise size of phones that will sell to the most people. Hacker News is full of the 100 people (me included!) that love small phones but the general public LOVES their gigantic horrible loud phones :)
- dgellow 24d agoWe are talking about how wide the phone is when folded. The company doesn’t know yet what exactly the market wants here, given it’s a new form factor for the apple audience
- classictraffic 24d agoOne of the reasons I plan on purchasing the iPhone Duo is actually because it has a smaller outer screen size than any of the other iPhones. Agreed that it is wider, but I think it can still be used one handed for most people
- dgellow 24d agoiPhone SE?
- JojoFatsani 24d agoIt's smaller though, until you unfold it
- stackghost 24d ago> But I have big hands, and I can't use my iphone 17 now without two hands. Are you a woman by any chance? I am currently typing this one handed on an iPhone 17 pro (not the pro max) and don’t consider my hands to be particularly large, for a man, but my wife has to two hand her android which is roughly the same size
- aczerepinski 24d agoKeep in mind the dimensions of the iPhone 1 were based on the most comfortable shape and size they could come up with. They weren’t targeting women specifically.
- foobarian 24d agoMaybe an increasing share of their market are people like me, that is, old and blind :-D
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- al_borland 24d agoI think the iPhone 3G was peak iPhone design. It felt good to hold and was small. Later small models hand sharper edges and didn’t feel as good in the hand. The Duo’s folded size has the same screen size as the iPhone mini, so they did go on the smaller size, rather than trying to unfold a Pro Max. It remains to be seen how the aspect ratio impacts one-handed use. I’d take a small foldable over a large slab.
- dgellow 24d agoiPhone 5s was peak form factor IMHO. I thought I would be tempted by the folding iPhone but it looks way too wide for me to use comfortably
- al_borland 24d agoI’ll definitely need to head to an Apple Store to see how it works for my hand before making any decisions on it.
- dgellow 24d agoYeah, I feel the same. I’m quite sure I will pass on it, but still, might be better IRL
- Reason077 24d agoThe iPhone X also had smooth rounded edges and was small by modern standards (bigger than the 3GS, though). Still one of my favourite iPhones. Most people now days put their phones in protective cases, so the sharp edges don’t matter too much. And if anything, it makes the cases easier to design and smaller/thinner.
- al_borland 24d agoThe iPhone X was better than the 6-8, I think the screen filling the whole thing helped it out, but it was still too large for my liking. I moved to the mini when it came out to get a smaller phone. I found it interesting that the intro of the Duo talked about how it had 90% of the screen of the iPhone 18, as a way to talk up how big it is. They didn’t do this for the iPhone mini, and I think it’s why it failed. The iPhone mini screen was only .1” smaller than the 8 Plus, in a form factor that was smaller than the normal 8. I think selling it like that, as the base level iPhone (without the mini label) would have made it a success… but I’m still bitter they killed it off.
- kadomony 24d agoAgree. I miss the mini. My girlfriend still has hers and is reluctant to upgrade for the inflation in size that happens every generation. Pretty soon we'll all look stupid with tablet-sized phones hanging from our necks by a lanyard.
- an0malous 24d agoI would guess more people care about battery life and the features that more battery capacity afford than ergonomics
- leoc 24d agoFor the Duo to make sense at all, it basically has to fold out into a screen which is big enough that (quite often, at least) you don't feel obliged to bring along a second, larger device anyway, or to wait until you get home or back to the office to "do real computer". That means that hitting a large-enough unfolded size and a suitable unfolded aspect ratio had to be Priority 1.
- chrisco255 24d agoThat's not really why foldables make sense. It's not for productivity, primarily, it's for entertainment. Videos and ebooks (and other long form text content) look better and feel better on a foldable (for the same reason we have e-readers despite having Kindle apps). Multitasking I'll admit is more useful on mobile now in the AI era than in the past. But really, a foldable isn't meant to compete with a Mac Air or similar. I don't even think it's really competition for iPads. It is nice to have the optionality and flexibility at all times and nothing is more on your person than your primary phone.
- aczerepinski 24d agoIt’s crazy that the reason we can’t have a comfortable-to-hold one is that a product that only sells 5 or 10 million units a year isn’t worth their time.
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- seizethecheese 24d agoIt's battery life. I was an iPhone 13 mini user for the last few years. I would buy a refurbished one off Amazon whenever my current one broke. I really prefer the smaller screen size. Recently, I broke my phone again and my wife happened to have a larger iPhone laying around unused (through some accident of e-commerce). I felt weird buying a new phone when we had a perfectly good one laying around, so I decided to give it a shot. I don't watch any video on my phone and most of my screentime is Kindle and Safari. My screentime is only like 2-3hrs per day. And yet, I still found myself chronically running out of batteries on the 13 mini. I actually now would prefer to keep my new annoyingly large 16e just to not have the battery anxiety. (A hidden assumption in the above is that larger screens make more room for battery.)
- yborg 24d agoYou could just get the Magsafe battery though.
- seizethecheese 24d agoSure and I did that, but I’d frequently forget it, it was annoying.
- tedd4u 24d agoBigger phone = bigger battery = more time between charges
- MattDamonSpace 24d agoDid you use the iPhone mini
- brokencode 24d agoThey’ve made mini iPhones before and they didn’t kill. In fact, they sold poorly enough to get killed.
- clint 24d agoPeople do NOT want smaller phones, that should be abundantly obvious.
- yborg 24d ago>everyone is the same as me
- eckesicle 24d agoYour question reminds me of this hilarious image after the ipad was released: https://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/iboard-imat-ipad.jpeg https://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/iboard-i...
- cnees 24d agoAs an average height woman with average hands, I want 1) an Apple + Levi's collaboration to put iPad Mini sized pockets in women's jeans 2) a phone slightly smaller than the SE so I can reach the furthest corner with my thumb
- yingw787 24d agoI'm on an iPhone 13 mini and got the battery replaced this year - hoping to get another three years out of it.
- Reason077 24d agoStill on 87% battery health on my iPhone 13 (not mini) that’s approaching 5 years old. Still an awesome phone with great battery life! I don’t plan to update it beyond iOS 18 though, and the Lightning port is becoming more and more of a pain over time.
- qurren 24d agoI don't understand this eSIM only trend. eSIM sucks for switching your service between devices or for travelling to countries where eSIM isn't a thing yet.
- whimsicalism 24d agowhich countries are esims not a thing?
- qurren 24d agoChina, central Asia, etc
- whimsicalism 24d agopretty sure you can get an esim in china
- helloakariq 22d ago[dead]
- turtlebits 24d agoWhy do people keep asking the same question over and over? It's because of market demand. I have an S24 ultra and I had an even bigger Sony xperia a while back. I have an old iPhone SE ( the one in the form factor of the iPhone 4) and find it absolutely unusable. Typing is a joke.
- jghn 24d agoI've been hoping that the folded size would be roughly that of a mini, and perhaps I could be wasteful and get the foldable phone and always keep it folded. But this doesn't sound promising.
- icantevenhold 24d agoI want a smaller phone, but am burned out on android; had too many android garbage phones. I’m leaning towards getting an old iPhone mini - but maybe someone knows a better alternative?
- jabroni_salad 24d agoMy z fold 8 is actually smaller than my old Xperia Z 3 Compact despite technically having a bigger screen. I would buy a device this size that doesnt unfold, even.
- doawoo 24d agoYeah I really miss the mini :( I went out of my way to make sure I found a "new" iPhone 13 mini for my corporate BYOD (needed for on-call, and I hate the cert they push so there's no way I'd use my personal phone...) The only corporate phones they offered were HUGE, being required to carry 2 phones is enough of an annoyance already, but two full-sized phones is a nightmare!
- black3r 24d agomy first iPhone was the original SE (which was essentially iPhone 4 expanded to 16:9 screen) and I'd say it was the perfect size of a phone, the reason why I opted for a larger screen even though my hands are kinda small for a man is that website and application design has completely shifted towards those large screens and small screens are unusable (and for me this has been true since 2019 when I switched to a larger screen) it is kinda annoying, but apparently the consensus of modern design includes both lots of useless horizontal margins (lots of them just for the sake of visible rounded corners) and lots of vertical space taken by ads (iPhone 17 is actually 19.5:9, not 16:9, so ads take less vertical space on such a screen)... and after a few months of using a larger screen I learned how to use it with one hand so it is possible - I rest my phone on 4 fingers and use thumb to interact, I only use two hands when typing (well two thumbs, but whatever)... but I still agree that the bigger the phone the more I'm worried it will fall down from my hand when operating it with one hand... the Max versions of iPhone do seem too large for me...
- dmpanch 24d agoI still think the design and size of the 6s - peak technology.
- pta2002 24d agoI haven’t seen anyone mention this yet, but… other than the Duo, the iPhones have been the same size since the iPhone X? Obviously not counting the Max/Plus/Mini lines, but the standard ones have had 6”-ish screens for almost a decade now (and the screen itself has increased in size, but that’s because they decreased the bezels), so they’ve hardly made a new phone that is larger than the one before since then. Personally, I quite like the size of the standard iPhones, fits in my pocket, can use it one handed well enough, and the display is big enough to comfortably view content. I have quite small hands though and I can see how someone bigger than me would like the size of the Pro Max line. Also this size clearly works, because basically all phones now are this exact same size give or take a few mm.