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People here do not seem to be considering the second-order effects of these series of events. No academic institution or enterprise will trust OpenAI, Anthropic

People here do not seem to be considering the second-order effects of these series of events. No academic institution or enterprise will trust OpenAI, Anthropic or any other non-local AI model with their core IP. There will be severe restrictions on what employees at these companies/institutions can share with AI services even from their personal accounts. (Or I am just overthinking it)

sk4rekr0w 26d ago
You are just overthinking it. This place is now a Claude blog and anti OpenAI site.
- consp 26d ago
  I hold both camps equally in low regard. Depending on the time of day this blog is hyper focused on either one of the companies and can do no wrong. All LLM companies and associated entities have a track record of fudging the truth to their needs and following big money without actual concern for the wider world. Whether this is out of directed act or misplaced idealism is up for debate.
- rochansinha 26d ago
  My response was not targeted towards Open-AI but towards all closed-source AI companies where your data is used for training and/or is visible to the internal agents whether you want it to or not.
  - sk4rekr0w 26d ago
    I think it is fair to expect the companies to stick by their demarcation API / enterprise subs tier is default opt out of training. Personal subsidized tier is default opt in with the option to to opt out. I don't see a grand conspiracy beyond this.
    - rochansinha 25d ago
      The Chief Research Office at Open AI just put out this tweet- https://x.com/markchen90/status/2097400166554993041?s=20 https://x.com/markchen90/status/2097400166554993041?s=20 Seems it doesn't matter if you opt out or in.. your data will be used for training
      - sk4rekr0w 25d ago
        Clearly not what he was saying
incognition 26d ago
i dont trust academics to not be dumb idiots. hes working with ant but using gpt. and then he cries foul? i cry dumb first
405error 26d ago
Many academics and grad students I know have closed source their in progress work, and started being really careful about what they chat with LLMs (or using local ones) because of the drama around this. No one wants four years of their life getting sniped by ten million dollars worth of tokens.
- 5555watch 25d ago
  Or, if you're using, you need to push a pre-print relatively soon after AI help.
aurareturn 26d ago
It's competition after all. If your academic colleague doesn't care and is leveraging ChatGPT in a big way and is making progress, you'll start to feel the pressure.
harhargange 25d ago
This is definitely true. So i can now justify my recent gpu purchase
AdamN 25d ago
If so that's an extremely good thing
_zoltan_ 25d ago
ZDR is a thing. extremely large companies with a lot of IP rights use GPT/Claude without issues.

sk4rekr0w 26d ago

You are just overthinking it. This place is now a Claude blog and anti OpenAI site.

consp 26d ago
I hold both camps equally in low regard. Depending on the time of day this blog is hyper focused on either one of the companies and can do no wrong. All LLM companies and associated entities have a track record of fudging the truth to their needs and following big money without actual concern for the wider world. Whether this is out of directed act or misplaced idealism is up for debate.
rochansinha 26d ago
My response was not targeted towards Open-AI but towards all closed-source AI companies where your data is used for training and/or is visible to the internal agents whether you want it to or not.
- sk4rekr0w 26d ago
  I think it is fair to expect the companies to stick by their demarcation API / enterprise subs tier is default opt out of training. Personal subsidized tier is default opt in with the option to to opt out. I don't see a grand conspiracy beyond this.
  - rochansinha 25d ago
    The Chief Research Office at Open AI just put out this tweet- https://x.com/markchen90/status/2097400166554993041?s=20 https://x.com/markchen90/status/2097400166554993041?s=20 Seems it doesn't matter if you opt out or in.. your data will be used for training
    - sk4rekr0w 25d ago
      Clearly not what he was saying

incognition 26d ago

i dont trust academics to not be dumb idiots. hes working with ant but using gpt. and then he cries foul? i cry dumb first

405error 26d ago

Many academics and grad students I know have closed source their in progress work, and started being really careful about what they chat with LLMs (or using local ones) because of the drama around this. No one wants four years of their life getting sniped by ten million dollars worth of tokens.

5555watch 25d ago
Or, if you're using, you need to push a pre-print relatively soon after AI help.

aurareturn 26d ago

It's competition after all. If your academic colleague doesn't care and is leveraging ChatGPT in a big way and is making progress, you'll start to feel the pressure.

harhargange 25d ago

This is definitely true. So i can now justify my recent gpu purchase

AdamN 25d ago

If so that's an extremely good thing

_zoltan_ 25d ago

ZDR is a thing. extremely large companies with a lot of IP rights use GPT/Claude without issues.