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There's people from all walks of life and all corners of the internet on there still, good and bad. Twitter was always a darned mess, the only difference now is

There's people from all walks of life and all corners of the internet on there still, good and bad. Twitter was always a darned mess, the only difference now is you can't just report people and bully them off the site. Contrast to me trying to open BlueSky, and seeing death threats and other insane things. I've also heard (though never personally seen, nor do I want to) that BlueSky has a CSAM problem. Those two factors alone kept me from even trying it out. What's really weird is there were a ton of claims that disappeared, about how X was full of bots, but X is the opposite of full of bots. Maybe there's one or another, but they're highly under the radar, X has improved their bot problem drastically. Edit (tweaked some words, and wanted to add): Then there was Threads, I am not in any way interested in "New Twitter" by Mark Zuckerberg, no thanks.

utopiah 2mo ago
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- tolerance 2mo ago
  I would love to see a visual representation of what you think those sort of people look like.
  - davidw 2mo ago
    Probably pretty ... banal, like Hannah Arendt pointed out.
  - utopiah 2mo ago
    Fiction would led us to believe they look ugly or gorgeous... history has shown us they look very banal.
    - tolerance 2mo ago
      Right. All that's left is for us to figure out how to specify the type of banality you and I and our sibling commenter are imagining.
- hypfer 2mo ago
  Not really. I mean you'd wish that that was the case, but the reality is even bleaker. The "specific kind" is not all that specific. Like yeah, of course, the crypto, AI and business grifters are a lot louder on Twitter now, but.. wouldn't say that they're not on HN as well, so. I mean I understand that you would want to shame people into leaving that platform, but to feel shame you first need to be present in the room and conversation. Apathic people on autopilot are not even taking part in the conversation you'd like to have. They just scroll.
smith7018 2mo ago
I genuinely can't take this comment seriously if you think BlueSky has a CSAM and bullying problem while staying on X.
- golf1052 2mo ago
  Yeah, there were numerous news reports about the AI CSAM problem on X - June 2025: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/x-accounts-peddle-child-abuse-musk-material-thorn-cuts-ties-rcna212107 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/x-accounts-peddle-chi... - Jan 2026: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/02/musk-grok-ai-bot-safeguard-sexualized-images-children.html https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/02/musk-grok-ai-bot-safeguard-s... - Mar 2026: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/17/x-csam-child-abuse-material-grok-australian-online-safety-regulator-ntwnfb https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/17/x-csam-ch...
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nobleach 2mo ago
I really can't deal with BlueSky. I wanted to because I had a lot of good "starter packs" for NeoVim and OCaml development. Nerd stuff is the reason I visit these sites. The problem is, I start following people and it almost always turns into politics. I may even AGREE with the person's politics but I hate reading and talking about it. God forbid I ever disagree. Funny thing though. I've heard the claims of "CSAM on Twitter" and now "CSAM on BlueSky". I've never had any of that ransomly show up. I do still have 2 or so random follows from clip-art female avatars with no tweets - per week. I've never quite figured out how that scam is supposed to work. I used to block 'em, now I ignore 'em.
- anonzzzies 2mo ago
  Never had issues with bluesky, but i'm a lurker and I have a llm filtering (here on HN, X, bluesky, reddit etc) which removes political stuff and boosts stuff I likely will like.
  - hypfer 2mo ago
    From what I heard, bluesky (unsurprisingly) has the exact same toxicity problems as twitter. There was I think this piece of writing in 2024 (just googled it, don't quote me on that) https://www.thefp.com/p/jesse-singal-bluesky-has-a-death-threat-problem https://www.thefp.com/p/jesse-singal-bluesky-has-a-death-thr... iirc there were newer instances too, but why bother reading on that, when you can just look at how the system is built. Twitter and Twitter-ish systems are just fundamentally anti-human. The same can be said about most of social media, actually, but Twitter is high up on the worst offender list, and Bluesky just cloned it. Again.
    - cagey 2mo ago
      I found this[0] to be an interesting perspective: "Bluesky Isn't a Bubble. It's a Containment Dome. Pray that Bluesky doesn't die entirely — we need it so the worst liberal posts are kept in a place where the broader public won't ever see them." [0] https://www.joshbarro.com/p/bluesky-isnt-a-bubble-its-a-containment https://www.joshbarro.com/p/bluesky-isnt-a-bubble-its-a-cont...
nemomarx 2mo ago
If you look at the replies to basically any big post, you'll see all the blue checkmark bots in there. Usually just copying posts, sometimes doing a weird ai summary of the original post in a way that isn't actually replying to it. I've got no idea if they're somehow making money off it or what's up
- tuesdaynight 2mo ago
  Followed by the porn bots, the racist bots, the "American" bot, etc. I'm really surprised how someone can use X and say that it is not full of bots. It's the same on Reddit.
  - giancarlostoro 2mo ago
    Maybe it's whatever social media Bubble X has me under, but I only follow people I know or are completely relevant, not random meme accounts.
ErroneousBosh 2mo ago
Bluesky has a weed problem, but eventually you can tune the algorithm to only show you thirty or forty posts about weed every day.
- criddell 2mo ago
  Bluesky is shrinking. https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/11/blueskys-active-user-base-is-shrinking-as-its-focus-expands-beyond-the-app/ https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/11/blueskys-active-user-base-...
  - alightsoul 2mo ago
    It is still far larger than all of the fediverse combined.
    - ErroneousBosh 2mo ago
      I dislike the fediverse, mostly because of the people on it. Inside of your Mastodon instance there are two wolves. One of them is a gay neo-Nazi furry who keeps posting everyone dick pics. Why do you even put up with that?
      - alightsoul 2mo ago
        It's like anime before it became popular, that's a side effect of not having enough users
- numpad0 2mo ago
  I think those are ultimately a locale dependent content bandwidth problem. Unwanted content has to be recommended if there were nothing else to show. Discovery feed on bsky.app gives me game news, local news, cat pics, some center-left politics, manga panels, food pics, random personal updates, cat pics, all warm and fuzzy stuffs. I don't get any CSAM, alt-right, nazism, weed, ragebaits, unwanted gay contents. Simply none of those. But I don't normally set the language to English, and I suspect that might have to do with not getting those stuffs.
devmor 2mo ago
> I've also heard (though never personally seen, nor do I want to) that BlueSky has a CSAM problem. I left X permanently because the unfathomable amount of CSAM being generated by Grok, without seeing it myself, sickened me to the point of no return. I don’t use Bluesky but it seems to me that if this is a real concern to you, then you should have left X as well.
- criddell 2mo ago
  I only log in to X a couple times a month, but the only type of Grok post I've ever seen is somebody retweeting a post and adding something like "grok, is this true?".
  - devmor 2mo ago
    I am a bit confused about your stance. You said you didn't need to see them on Bluesky to avoid it, why is this different for X?
numpad0 2mo ago
> I've also heard (though never personally seen, nor do I want to) that BlueSky has a CSAM problem. There really isn't, unless you mean anime content(of both SFW and NSFW alike) by "CSAM". In case you mean by that, then there is, otherwise no. It also appears to be highly locale dependent - some say they see timeline filled to the brim with fetish furry images and male gay nudity dressed with right wing politics, but my timeline is like just Twitter 2014 stuck at 3AM without any of those. I don't use any filters or blocklists, the place seem naturally nice-ish. > about how X was full of bots They appear to have largely given up and scaled back efforts to replace existing social graphs by funding African/Middle Eastern/Indian/South Asian content farms under the guise of revenue sharing programs, burning out talents west to east, likely with the conclusion that they're all equally incapable of understanding contents posted on Twitter even without the language barrier, let alone gaining popularity and even with literal algorithmic manipulations. Or they just burned through quite a deep talent pool globally. That effort started after Twitter was bought, beginning around South Africa or Nigeria. So it's not an improvement, unless you count someone ceasing hostility as an improvement.

utopiah 2mo ago

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tolerance 2mo ago
I would love to see a visual representation of what you think those sort of people look like.
- davidw 2mo ago
  Probably pretty ... banal, like Hannah Arendt pointed out.
- utopiah 2mo ago
  Fiction would led us to believe they look ugly or gorgeous... history has shown us they look very banal.
  - tolerance 2mo ago
    Right. All that's left is for us to figure out how to specify the type of banality you and I and our sibling commenter are imagining.
hypfer 2mo ago
Not really. I mean you'd wish that that was the case, but the reality is even bleaker. The "specific kind" is not all that specific. Like yeah, of course, the crypto, AI and business grifters are a lot louder on Twitter now, but.. wouldn't say that they're not on HN as well, so. I mean I understand that you would want to shame people into leaving that platform, but to feel shame you first need to be present in the room and conversation. Apathic people on autopilot are not even taking part in the conversation you'd like to have. They just scroll.

smith7018 2mo ago

I genuinely can't take this comment seriously if you think BlueSky has a CSAM and bullying problem while staying on X.

golf1052 2mo ago
Yeah, there were numerous news reports about the AI CSAM problem on X - June 2025: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/x-accounts-peddle-child-abuse-musk-material-thorn-cuts-ties-rcna212107 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/x-accounts-peddle-chi... - Jan 2026: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/02/musk-grok-ai-bot-safeguard-sexualized-images-children.html https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/02/musk-grok-ai-bot-safeguard-s... - Mar 2026: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/17/x-csam-child-abuse-material-grok-australian-online-safety-regulator-ntwnfb https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/17/x-csam-ch...
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nobleach 2mo ago

I really can't deal with BlueSky. I wanted to because I had a lot of good "starter packs" for NeoVim and OCaml development. Nerd stuff is the reason I visit these sites. The problem is, I start following people and it almost always turns into politics. I may even AGREE with the person's politics but I hate reading and talking about it. God forbid I ever disagree. Funny thing though. I've heard the claims of "CSAM on Twitter" and now "CSAM on BlueSky". I've never had any of that ransomly show up. I do still have 2 or so random follows from clip-art female avatars with no tweets - per week. I've never quite figured out how that scam is supposed to work. I used to block 'em, now I ignore 'em.

anonzzzies 2mo ago
Never had issues with bluesky, but i'm a lurker and I have a llm filtering (here on HN, X, bluesky, reddit etc) which removes political stuff and boosts stuff I likely will like.
- hypfer 2mo ago
  From what I heard, bluesky (unsurprisingly) has the exact same toxicity problems as twitter. There was I think this piece of writing in 2024 (just googled it, don't quote me on that) https://www.thefp.com/p/jesse-singal-bluesky-has-a-death-threat-problem https://www.thefp.com/p/jesse-singal-bluesky-has-a-death-thr... iirc there were newer instances too, but why bother reading on that, when you can just look at how the system is built. Twitter and Twitter-ish systems are just fundamentally anti-human. The same can be said about most of social media, actually, but Twitter is high up on the worst offender list, and Bluesky just cloned it. Again.
  - cagey 2mo ago
    I found this[0] to be an interesting perspective: "Bluesky Isn't a Bubble. It's a Containment Dome. Pray that Bluesky doesn't die entirely — we need it so the worst liberal posts are kept in a place where the broader public won't ever see them." [0] https://www.joshbarro.com/p/bluesky-isnt-a-bubble-its-a-containment https://www.joshbarro.com/p/bluesky-isnt-a-bubble-its-a-cont...

nemomarx 2mo ago

If you look at the replies to basically any big post, you'll see all the blue checkmark bots in there. Usually just copying posts, sometimes doing a weird ai summary of the original post in a way that isn't actually replying to it. I've got no idea if they're somehow making money off it or what's up

tuesdaynight 2mo ago
Followed by the porn bots, the racist bots, the "American" bot, etc. I'm really surprised how someone can use X and say that it is not full of bots. It's the same on Reddit.
- giancarlostoro 2mo ago
  Maybe it's whatever social media Bubble X has me under, but I only follow people I know or are completely relevant, not random meme accounts.

ErroneousBosh 2mo ago

Bluesky has a weed problem, but eventually you can tune the algorithm to only show you thirty or forty posts about weed every day.

criddell 2mo ago
Bluesky is shrinking. https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/11/blueskys-active-user-base-is-shrinking-as-its-focus-expands-beyond-the-app/ https://techcrunch.com/2026/08/11/blueskys-active-user-base-...
- alightsoul 2mo ago
  It is still far larger than all of the fediverse combined.
  - ErroneousBosh 2mo ago
    I dislike the fediverse, mostly because of the people on it. Inside of your Mastodon instance there are two wolves. One of them is a gay neo-Nazi furry who keeps posting everyone dick pics. Why do you even put up with that?
    - alightsoul 2mo ago
      It's like anime before it became popular, that's a side effect of not having enough users
numpad0 2mo ago
I think those are ultimately a locale dependent content bandwidth problem. Unwanted content has to be recommended if there were nothing else to show. Discovery feed on bsky.app gives me game news, local news, cat pics, some center-left politics, manga panels, food pics, random personal updates, cat pics, all warm and fuzzy stuffs. I don't get any CSAM, alt-right, nazism, weed, ragebaits, unwanted gay contents. Simply none of those. But I don't normally set the language to English, and I suspect that might have to do with not getting those stuffs.

devmor 2mo ago

> I've also heard (though never personally seen, nor do I want to) that BlueSky has a CSAM problem. I left X permanently because the unfathomable amount of CSAM being generated by Grok, without seeing it myself, sickened me to the point of no return. I don’t use Bluesky but it seems to me that if this is a real concern to you, then you should have left X as well.

criddell 2mo ago
I only log in to X a couple times a month, but the only type of Grok post I've ever seen is somebody retweeting a post and adding something like "grok, is this true?".
- devmor 2mo ago
  I am a bit confused about your stance. You said you didn't need to see them on Bluesky to avoid it, why is this different for X?

numpad0 2mo ago

> I've also heard (though never personally seen, nor do I want to) that BlueSky has a CSAM problem. There really isn't, unless you mean anime content(of both SFW and NSFW alike) by "CSAM". In case you mean by that, then there is, otherwise no. It also appears to be highly locale dependent - some say they see timeline filled to the brim with fetish furry images and male gay nudity dressed with right wing politics, but my timeline is like just Twitter 2014 stuck at 3AM without any of those. I don't use any filters or blocklists, the place seem naturally nice-ish. > about how X was full of bots They appear to have largely given up and scaled back efforts to replace existing social graphs by funding African/Middle Eastern/Indian/South Asian content farms under the guise of revenue sharing programs, burning out talents west to east, likely with the conclusion that they're all equally incapable of understanding contents posted on Twitter even without the language barrier, let alone gaining popularity and even with literal algorithmic manipulations. Or they just burned through quite a deep talent pool globally. That effort started after Twitter was bought, beginning around South Africa or Nigeria. So it's not an improvement, unless you count someone ceasing hostility as an improvement.