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I love the article, it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes. However there's just one issue: > The students I want to teach are
by HawtAds 2mo ago
I love the article, it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes. However there's just one issue:
> The students I want to teach are in the same position, and so are the ones in Nigeria and Bangladesh
It does not take $60 to ship small sub $1 chips from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh. These two countries are all on global trade routes (both supply and demand) and the expensive last mile delivery costs are fairly low there too.
- alephnerd 2mo ago> it's a breath of fresh air compared to the usual bay area centric takes... HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with SWE culture in DACH and CEE. Presumed RISC-V hate is a perfect example of that - the UCs and CSUs have been using RISC-V in their curriculum since the 2010s becuase Patterson is faculty at Cal and most CompArch courses in both systems have been using RISC-V as a result because 61a/b/c are often used as the benchmark curricula wise. An entire generation of Californian computer engineers have been RISC-V fluent as a result. The hivemind assumption that HN's user base is "venture capital", "tech bro", "founders", and "Silicon Valley" is around 5 years out of date. Anecdotally, the vast majority of younger (below 30) founders, engineers, VCs, and builders in the Bay have either not heard of HN or quit it within weeks due to toxicity.
- orangeboats 2mo agoNon-American here... what is DACH?
- greyb 2mo agoIt is Germany, Austria, Switzerland.
- orangeboats 2mo agoThanks! I must admit this is the first time I have heard of the acronym.
- overfeed 2mo agoInteresting, I imagined it is behind only EMEA, APAC in terms of notoriety as a geographic, multicountry market segment
- Tomte 2mo agoBased on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_vehicle_registration_code#Current_codes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_vehicle_registra...
- slater 2mo agoGermany, Austria, Switzerland (D, A, CH)
- em-bee 2mo agoD, A and CH are the international vehicle registration codes for those countries among other things. and "dach" as a word means "roof", which makes it memorable. some more fun facts here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_distribution_of_German_speakers#German-speaking_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_distribution_of_G...
- greyb 2mo ago>HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH. I honestly do not get this at all. HN remains very US-centric to me, and especially centric to the mindshare of the Bay Area's IRL conversations, and apart from some takes on tech rights, does not really remind me of my experience in DACH.
- alephnerd 2mo ago> I honestly do not get this at all. HN remains very US-centric to me, and apart from some takes on tech rights, does not really remind me of my experience in DACH. The majority of HN's usership, posting, and comment activity occurs during peak EU work hours (3am-9am), stylistic patterns that are common for German-, French, and Polish-native speakers are increasingly prominent (eg. periods and spaces instead of commas in numbers, spacing between quotation marks and words, failing to use context clues to infer timezone), and the fact that IRL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene are entirely different from those on HN shows a massive divergence in userbase. HN "Who wants to get hired" threads are a good example of that as well. I'd recommend deep diving in the HN scrape dataset on HuggingFace [0]. The site has diverged heavily compared to 2018 or 2012. [0] - https://huggingface.co/datasets/open-index/hacker-news https://huggingface.co/datasets/open-index/hacker-news
- Avicebron 2mo agoHow would you say the "IRL conversation topics in the Bay Area tech scene" diverge from HN?
- AlotOfReading 2mo agoHaven't seen anyone sending partiful invites here.
- fragmede 2mo agoCourse not. Everyone cool moved over to Luma because Partiful got those Palantir vibes.
- handwarmers 2mo agothe fact that this comment is getting downvoted into oblivion instead of discussed is poignant enough. fwiw, my experience is similar. hn has not been about startups, vc funding, or anything in that space for quite a while. to paraphrase a classic, this place is like a memory of the forum we used to love, and the memory is fading.
- bigbadfeline 2mo ago> this place is like a memory of the forum we used to love, and the memory is fading. Well, this place (wherever you are) is like a memory of the world we used to love, and the memory is fading... Definitely true too. You can't expect a place tightly connected to a changing world to stay the same.
- nottorp 2mo agoThe "AI" spam is significantly more prevalent than the blockchain spam used to be, but HN has always had its spam waves. Blockchain is all but dead, even the "i've rewritten this thing, it has far less features but it's IN RUST" spam has greatly reduced.
- jdw64 2mo ago[dead]
- GPerson 2mo agoHow is it not tech bro centric when every third thread is about some new feature of a random Anthropic product?
- snowpid 2mo ago" HN hasn't been Bay Area centric in years. Honestly, most comments and usership on the platform seems to now align with DACH and CEE. " I like to encounter discussions about German digital health system or the German start up system or neo2. I've never seen them so I doubt it. Also almost no debates about Polish stuff (Hello neigbours!)
- TruffleLabs 2mo agoIs this comment on shipping costs from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh based on your experience? If there is a less expensive way then share the approach to help others :)
- em-bee 2mo agoi don't know how trustworthy rateships.com is, but according to them shipping costs to nigeria and trinidad are similar. and as for the last mile, the cost probably goes up because local shipping is rather unsafe (higher rate of theft of packages).
- spacechild1 2mo ago> from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh. Bangladesh is a country in Asia...
- cyberclimb 2mo agoI don't think they are necessarily asserting otherwise
- Ar-Curunir 2mo agoShipping from Asia to Asia doesn’t make much sense
- cwillu 2mo agoAsia is a pretty big place
- k_roy 2mo agoCompared to a banana?
- bigfatkitten 2mo agoHey, Asia’s not that big. If you’re in Bangladesh, you can simply walk to the electronics store in Japan.
- thaumasiotes 2mo ago> Shipping from Asia to Asia doesn’t make much sense I imagine both the majority of shipments from Asia, and the majority of shipments to Asia, fall into this "nonsensical" category.
- spacechild1 2mo agoSo what does it mean to ship from Asia to Bangladesh? Do you ship from India, Iran or Indonesia? Or just within Bangladesh? :)
- jacquesm 2mo agoSo, you are calling the author a liar?
- Kudos 2mo agoNo, I think he's saying the costs don't need to be so high and certain parties are just taking advantage.
- bigcat12345678 2mo agoThis is a bay area centric take on a non bay area centric take. The typical bay area centric take has the following vibe: 1. I am among the group of most open minded people 2. I admit mistakes, but I don't change my view, that means I may make the same mistakes next time on a different concrete cases 3. Morally I am among the least corrupted 4. I work for the moderately morally questionable firms with nice paychecks, but my moral views are not tainted a bit 5. I never think on the other's perspectives
- tekla 2mo agoAs exemplified in the following series of essays https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-foothills-of-bay-area-house-party https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/the-foothills-of-bay-area-h...
- Avicebron 2mo agoThis one was more self-aware than others. But we all know the demon voice of San Francisco sounds like a shoggoth trained on LessWrong.
- msdz 2mo agoThank you so much for sharing these. I just laughed my ass off a bunch, and I’ve only yet read this one latest post in the series. My favorite bit, I think (along with the running gag of the constant use cases/connections that somehow pop up for Epstart’s founder): > “Would you like to hear more about how copying AI tics helps me keep conversations going?” > “Uh, sure - wait! No!” You break off and turn around as fast as you can. If the other entries in the series are anywhere near as good, I’ll have some reading to do now.
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- Dylan16807 2mo agoBeing generically insulting without addressing the topic is really unhelpful even if you're right about the specific thing that triggered the insult!
- gaius_baltar 2mo ago> It does not take $60 to ship small sub $1 chips from Asia to Nigeria/Bangladesh So don't even try to find how expensive is bring these to Brazil. Even the $5 orders from JLCPCB become infeasible for hobbyists here due to all the roadblocks.
- notenlish 2mo agoIt could be bureocratic barriers. For example, Turkey recently changed importing laws so that anything(even stuff sent to you for free) from outside the country is subject to tariffs & import costs. Importing a cheap component worth 1$ costs like 300$.