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But can you trust any number or metric coming out of SpaceX given everything? Also you mean their own compute like the illegal data centre turbines? https://w
by isodev 2mo ago
But can you trust any number or metric coming out of SpaceX given everything? Also you mean their own compute like the illegal data centre turbines?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk-xai-datacenter-memphis https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk...
- hotstickyballs 2mo agoBecause it works and they don’t charge a lot for it
- feifan 2mo agobeing a public company forces a lot of trust and transparency bc otherwise shareholders will sue you into oblivion
- amarka 2mo agoTrue story, for example take Tesla's promise of self driving which was delivered back in 2015.
- krakrum 2mo ago[flagged]
- LastTrain 2mo agoBut that isn’t what they promised.
- senordevnyc 2mo agoThere’s some number of supposedly unsupervised Teslas actually operating in Austin, but what I’ve seen suggests it’s more like a dozen. And extreme skepticism is warranted that they’re actually fully unsupervised, given Tesla’s repeated lies about this. They’re likely remotely monitored and operated.
- ipython 2mo ago“Late” is doing a LOT of heavy lifting here. We are talking about 11 years!
- mullingitover 2mo agoThey defrauded everyone who bought a Tesla on the promise that the Tesla they bought would be fully self-driving sometime in the near future. Taxis are a different and wholly irrelevant product that doesn’t absolve the fraud that they committed.
- Forgeties79 2mo ago[dead]
- amarka 2mo agoWhat's wild to me is that today there are more companies with more than 100 unsupervised self driving cars out on the road that DID NOT exist (as a company) back when Tesla CEO told investors they're a year away from FSD.
- p_j_w 2mo agoAre those Teslas the 2016 Model 3?
- stackghost 2mo agoSpaceX is run by an absolute ghoul who managed to get away with securities fraud ("funding secured"), what makes you think there's any accountability left in public markets?
- stickfigure 2mo agoFrom Matt Levine's description, SpaceX has a governance model that explicitly makes it resistant to shareholder lawsuits. It's not a Delaware corporation. It might or might not work long-term, but I wouldn't count on courts to help.
- kendalf89 2mo agoCorporations are legally required to maximize shareholder's value. If reaching that goal requires them to pretend to be transparent, or fudge the numbers that they show to the public, then that's what you can expect them to do.
- kuhaku22 2mo ago> Corporations are legally required to maximize shareholder's value. This is a myth.
- small_model 2mo agoNow do Anthropic's copyright fines.
- Computer0 2mo agoNow find someone who cares about or respects copyright law.
- freejazz 2mo agoCrazy that posters here don't know the difference between a "fine," a "judgment," and a voluntary settlement. Anthropic didn't even train on the pirated libraries, they said. Still, they made copies. Probably the biggest legal blunder I've seen given the size of the settlement. Alas, it's not a fine.
- davidguetta 2mo ago"everythin you don't like" is not a scientific argument, neither is the illegality of data centers on AI quality
- dongttebayo 2mo agoSo you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or? I’m confused by how your reply makes sense in the context of the parent comment. They weren’t stating a preference, they were linking to simple facts. Please do better.
- pinkmuffinere 2mo ago> So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or? They claim that spacex has competitive advantage. They take no stance on condoning spacex’s behavior. Personally I strongly dislike musks behavior, but I appreciate discussion of competitive advantages/disadvantages, independent of moral views. I liked the thread, it adds new info to the conversation.
- throw10920 2mo ago> So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or? No, they're not. You're making up things and pretending that they said them. > Please do better. You're badly breaking the HN guidelines. Please review them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- josefresco 2mo agoAs are you! Your comment was snarky and mean. Clear violations.
- throw10920 2mo ago> As are you! Your comment was snarky and mean. Clear violations. This is factually incorrect. I did not say anything "snarky" or "mean". I stated facts and pointed out that the poster was breaking the guidelines.
- walthamstow 2mo agoAnthropic rent the same data centre with the turbines from X btw
- gengelbro 2mo agoWait until they find out what's in a powerplant!
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- Rover222 2mo agodo you have any idea how much clickbait gets circulated because... Musk gets clicks? Just try it for yourself. Grok 4.6 is great (first impression)