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AI has killed reading-anything-written-after-AI for me. Due to this effect it is probably the worst invention in human history or pre-history.
by erfgh 2mo ago
AI has killed reading-anything-written-after-AI for me. Due to this effect it is probably the worst invention in human history or pre-history.
- nba456_ 2mo agoThen why are you on HN right now? Everything on this page was written after AI.
- IshKebab 2mo agoCome on you know what he means. Blog posts, articles, that sort of thing. AI has definitely made reading things posted to HN a much worse experience (even if they aren't all slop). It doesn't seem to have infected the comments yet, mercifully. I guess for a quick comment it's still easier to write it yourself than get Claude to do it.
- pessimizer 2mo agoIt has infected the comments. Our patrons are fighting a good fight, but good slop is mostly indistinguishable from a worthless karma-farming comment. Mods are probably just cheating because there are people with 15-20 year old accounts, many of whom they personally know, and you can assume that the stuff they're interacting with is not slop or is at least worthy slop.
- inflected00 2mo agoWhat's infected HN is the same old discourse; old people find the kids social tropes dangerous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_of_the_Innocent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_of_the_Innocent https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26328105 https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26328105 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_Advisory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_Advisory What's more realistic; 50+ year olds of today just parroting sensory experience where they heard their dead or dying elders complain about the kids back in the 00s, 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s... etc etc Or the 50+ year olds actually figured out how everything must work for the next 1,000 years they won't be around for The olds who grew up in a PTSD addled post world war and cold war social reality while huffing leaded gas smog? They figured it out forever, everyone! ...No. You figured out yourselves relative to technology of your day. Tech will change and the living will figure themselves out relative to their technology. You're just engaged in parroting specifics of your own experience.
- prolly97 2mo agoYou're comparing almost three millennia of text, to a couple of years worth of text. Let's see this play out. Plato also threw shade on writing. Which is an invention that turned out alright for humanity, imho. Maybe it'll turn out that we can push through to a yet-unknown-but-better state, as we've so far done, rather than relying on just going back to a previous state that we were content with. Sorry for the somewhat sarcastic tone. But the hyperbolism deserved it.
- wesleywt 2mo agoNah, AI writing is overwhelming real writing but contributes nothing new.
- daishi55 2mo agoYou don’t seem to have read the comment you are replying to.
- pessimizer 2mo agoI think they understood it pretty well. What in it was worth any other reaction? edit: I might add that anna's archive and sci-hub are good alternatives to the slopweb.
- daishi55 2mo agoNothing they said demonstrated any understanding of what they replied to. They simply restated their opinion with no reference to any of the points made in the comment they were ostensibly replying to.
- solid_fuel 2mo agoThe comment they’re replying to didn’t add anything new - it’s just the same old regurgitated ideas and has a lot of misconceptions. Almost exactly like LLM content. Taking the time to respond in detail would be a waste.
- bluebarbet 2mo agoAm I really the only one who doesn't care whether or not prose was written by AI? Assuming that a text is signed off on by a person, then surely what counts is its substance, not who or what actually strung the words together. I'm constantly surprised by this obsessive need to falsify what is unfalsifiable. And among nerds of all people. It feels religious, like a modern form of heresy-purging.
- inknight 2mo agopeople who generate entire blogposts with claude probably do not care about substance, tho. before llms, people would have to put effort into what they write and be mindful about the things that they are saying. now it just generates the whole thing, the people who "signs it" barely reviews it fully most of the time, IF they review it at all, proceed to say "eh, good enough" and publishes it.
- bluebarbet 2mo agoIronic anecdote. Although I don't care about AI, I'm triggered by your own carefree attitude to orthography (no capitalization, unpronounceable words like "llms"). At least AI is easy to parse!
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- unleaded 2mo agoDid you actually find that comment hard to read or are you just choosing to be offended by it?
- bluebarbet 2mo agoThe former. As did everyone else who read it, including you. Capitalization and punctuation are not decorative extras, they were invented for a reason.
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- energy123 2mo agoA similar thing is going to happen to young graduates and young scientists, or is already happening. Most new technical accomplishments are now devalued because they can plausibly be AI. There's an increasingly narrow path to establishing yourself as a credible person.
- chungusamongus 2mo agoSounds like an elaborate rationale to be lazy.
- backlava12 2mo agoI think relatively few people have fully comprehended the enormous downsides that LLMs bring with them. I do think they are useful tools in many situations, but the fact alone that they have "flipped" the "takes time and energy to write something useful so others can more quickly read and comprehend a complex idea" equation is very, very bad.
- nunez 2mo agoYep. Almost all of the top results I get from my searches are AI-generated garbage if the content was published after 2025. It's essentially guaranteed now. Whatever; let the people have what they asked for. At least there's an infinite supply of old books.
- tru3_power 2mo agoWho asked for this? Lol
- inigyou 2mo agoBillionaires
- nearlyepic 2mo agoI was just thinking yesterday that it might actually be worse than nuclear weapons. Both in terms of likelihood to destroy all of humanity and in terms of “how did nobody working on this see that this was an obviously horrifying idea”
- chrisjj 2mo ago> “how did nobody working on this see that this was an obviously horrifying idea” Perhaps they did and quit? Q2: How does nobody still working on this not see that this is an obviously horrifying idea? A: They passed the filter. The fact such people are in control is even more horrifying.
- a34729t 2mo agoIt's the great filter. 99% of knowledge workers will lose their skills and/or their jobs.
- jmkr 2mo agoIndeed, I also don't listen to music after 2024. I'm also not interested in anything my friends have made (with claude or others). Or how so much of creativity is now a prompt away. A lot of our culture is disappearing before our eyes and people are defending it.
- hbn 2mo agoYou can find bands you like and follow what they put out, just like before. I don't know why you'd ignore the output of talented musicians because AI exists. You can't complain about culture disappearing if you're choosing to ignore it.
- AlexandrB 2mo agoAnd make sure "follow" means "buy their stuff on Bandcamp or directly from them". Streaming platforms send most of the money you pay to bands you probably never listen to.
- a34729t 2mo agoI think metal will be fine. Maybe it'll become the dominant musical genre in the US, finally?
- tru3_power 2mo agoWait I’m confused- is this because you believe all music produced post 2024 is ai generated/ai assisted?
- jmkr 2mo agoNo, but I think a lot is, and it makes it (more) difficult to discover new music. There's still in person music, which is what it's about anyway.
- rurp 2mo agoNot just reading, videos have been ruined in many ways as well. My base reaction to seeing anything surprising on video form has switched from "Interesting!" to "Probably fake". Novel events caught on video are now immediately suspected as being AI and discounted by many people. Same for software for that matter. GenAI has killed my interest in releasing web apps outside of work. Before I used to find value in putting stuff on the web for others to find and enjoy, and it sparked some interesting interaction with other people. Now anything I publish will mostly be consumed by bots and thrown into an AI blender that completely divorces it from the creator.