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That is both a yikes (towards Apple) and very unethical (towards OpenAI and the engineers who did this). Why do people do these things? Do you have no shame tha
by giancarlostoro 3mo ago
That is both a yikes (towards Apple) and very unethical (towards OpenAI and the engineers who did this). Why do people do these things? Do you have no shame that you might have a harder time landing future jobs if you're perceived as someone who might sell out your future employer on a whim and steal proprietary information?
- alwa 3mo agoFuture jobs? I thought AGI was the future of work! And plus, their duty is to a higher cause! All humanity needs them to win, so that the superintelligence is “aligned” to their superior values… like “all’s fair in love and war”! (/s) …rumblings of “divine mandate” in there somewhere…
- giancarlostoro 3mo agoI thought AGI was supposed to come soon? Wasn't Sam Altman saying that it would come last year? I would love to see genuinely demonstrations of these labs different AGI attempts because I am a skeptic on AGI, I'm fine with LLMs.
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- halfmatthalfcat 3mo agoThey probably were presented with huge comp packages which made bending ethics incredibly easy.
- giancarlostoro 3mo agoUnless its enough money to retire, I just don't understand people doing it for money.
- teaearlgraycold 3mo agoThere are comp packages in the millions for people (often a large part can be in a lump sum bonus as well).
- charlieyu1 3mo agoPeople break the law for pennies all the time
- saghm 3mo agoSure, and when they do it for stuff where they're at risk of getting caught, it's confusing too. I'm not particularly motivated by money, which makes it pretty easy for me to not have any desire to take risks like breaking the law for money, but I can at least comprehend that for some people who are more motivated by money compared to other things, there might be some crimes where the risk/reward ratio ends up making it appealing. What I never understand is people doing crimes when the likelihood and magnitude of the risk are both so high compared to the actual upside if you manage to get away with it. I can't imagine they're making enough money from this to make it a worthwhile risk, so it's not clear where the cognitive dissonance is. Do they think that OpenAI is going to be so rich and powerful in the future that their gratitude will pay off even more in the long run? Are they way overconfident that they can pull it off without consequences? I can't even begin to wrap my head around any of the scenarios individually, much less have any insight into which one they bought into.
- ifwinterco 3mo agoSome industries (e.g. law) are close knit, at the top level everyone knows everyone, you’d get blacklisted for pulling stuff like this. But tech isn’t like that, there’s always a new startup and a new VC firm that don’t care that you ripped off every single previous person you worked with, stole trade secrets… maybe this time will be different
- giancarlostoro 3mo agoDisgusting to think about honestly, no integrity.
- danesparza 3mo ago"Why do people do these things" Money, ideology, coercion, and ego.
- saghm 3mo agoAlso likely a healthy dose of confidence that they wouldn't get caught (seemingly overconfidence, but I suppose maybe they were just extremely unlucky)
- danesparza 3mo agoI think that falls under 'ego', but sure.