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Keeping up with this stuff is for people who define their identity through virtue signalling and whatever personality trait they have decided to make the proble
by chmod775 3mo ago
Keeping up with this stuff is for people who define their identity through virtue signalling and whatever personality trait they have decided to make the problem of everyone around them.
Let them have their little corner of the internet and just stay away. There's plenty of alternatives run by people who don't feel the need to bring their personal baggage into a cooperative environment.
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- layer8 3mo agoWhat are these plentiful alternatives? SourceHut also comes with “personal baggage”.
- Hendrikto 3mo agoIt really is a shame Drew is so opinionated and dogmatic. I like most of his work, but his politics make Source Hut too shaky of a foundation to build on.
- inigyou 2mo agoAmuses me that Codeberg and Sourcehut have the same naming scheme. What's next - SLoCbarn? Header Haven? Function City?
- queenkjuul 2mo agoRepohaus
- chmod775 3mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_source-code-hosting_facilities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_source-code-host...
- Zambyte 3mo agoJust host your own git server, it's an afternoon project. Use other forges as mirrors.
- gregdaniels421 2mo agoForgejo is pretty crazy easy to setup if you have a server with some storage already. It can be set to lock out people by default
- layer8 2mo agoI have been self-hosting Gitea since long before Forgejo existed, but I understood the parent to be talking about third-party hosting with a FOSS community around it.
- 48terry 2mo agoNo one's guaranteed to third-party hosting or communities. The software is there. Host it. If no third-party or community wants to take you in, then I suppose you're going to have to start one for like-minded people. If there aren't any, then I suppose you've lost the marketplace of ideas. Isn't that how this is supposed to work?
- kkkdkxbxb 2mo agoGitea is china-ware that doesn’t share values with most FOSS.
- inigyou 2mo agoif you have ssh access to a server, setup is as easy as ssh user@host mkdir myproject git init --bare myproject Done. The remote URL is user@host:myproject (relative to user home dir) or user@host:/home/user/myproject (absolute path)
- Zambyte 2mo agoThat works for private repositories, but public facing ones require a little more than that.
- grumbel 3mo agoThere is Radicle for completely distributed hosting.
- ErroneousBosh 3mo agodocker run data.forgejo.org/forgejo/runner:12 forgejo-runner I thought this was supposed to be a site for hackers? Apply some Hacker Nature to the problem.
- sigilsack 2mo ago[dead]
- gregdaniels421 2mo agoIs there a another platform with more users/better quality users?
- nekusar 2mo agolobste.rs Hn without the VC taint
- layer8 2mo agoI have been self-hosting Gitea since long before Forgejo existed, but I understood the parent to be talking about third-party hosting with a FOSS community around it.
- myaccountonhn 2mo agossh server git init --bare repo.git && git clone server:repo.git
- lkey 3mo agoThe article calls another entity exerting its right of free association 'censorship'. This too is signaling a certain set of values. Even Immoral and Amoral companies serve values that others might consider 'baggage'. Palantir worshipping death and war has caused their civilian contracts to suffer and languish. This is baggage; It may be their own death knell. '(amorally) maximizing shareholder value (for the next quarter)' is (for me) an insane value system on its face, and makes problems for everyone around them, yet who argue like you are here don't see that as 'personal baggage' at all.
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- throwayay4929 3mo agoImaging where the world would be if Firefox, when it came out, went deep on the Iraq war? Or if RMS got involved in, I don't know, the Lewinsky affair in the 1990s, and made it a core part of the FSF? We'd all be using WinXP SE and IE6. "The personal is political" is a truly toxic idea that's been corroding nice things since it's inception.
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- ngcazz 3mo ago"nice things" you mean upholding the harm of the status quo by not criticizing it
- mrngld 3mo agoBut do people look at installing a formulae in brew and wonder "what's their position on Uyghur oppression in Western China?" Like, wow, jxl is pretty neat, but they don't have a position on Palestine so I don't know if I should leverage the JPEG XL format? Insanity. IMO. Keep that stuff at home.
- jraph 2mo agoWell if I had to install something and knew their authors were in favor of genocides, I would look elsewhere. > they don't have a position on Palestine so I don't know if I should leverage the JPEG XL format? This is a strawman. You go from "they are in favor of something horrible, should I use them?" to "they haven't expressed a position on stuff, should I use them?".
- throwayay4929 2mo agoSo youre proposing that everyone should always be criticizing every unjust thing in the world or else they're upholding the status quo? By that silly logic I guess codeberg is supporting the uyghur genocide because they don't mention it.
- sscaryterry 3mo agoWell said. This is one of the most concise and from my point of view accurate accounts of what is happening right now. I'm personally sick of all the politics in OSS development, as such, I no longer actively contribute. Different strokes for different blokes/whatever floats your boat. I don't care, do as you please.
- zelphirkalt 3mo agoAre you consciously choosing to completely ignore large parts of Codeberg's explanations, regarding the amount of traffic they get from one-man LLM shows, and additionally completely fail to consider the type of organization, that Codeberg is, in order to label this as merely virtue signaling?
- chmod775 3mo ago> Are you consciously choosing to completely ignore Yes. Let me stop you right there: Yes, absolutely. Whatever they claim their reasons are, it's not my problem. I don't care. The last Codeberg story that popped up here just this week was something about them banning Bitcoin. At that pace you should worry whether you're next. Which is why my advice is: Avoid the headache. Go somewhere else.
- beepbooptheory 3mo agoI get your point but by your own reasoning here you can't ignore these things because you are also choosing to be principled in your own way here, right? Like you need to know, at the very least, what to avoid if you absolutely must steer clear of all the politics you hate right? Like if you don't even know and choose not to know, how will you have the early warning that the SaaS is gonna ban your hypothetical crypto repo? You can't let your strong principles get in the way of being practical in this kind of world! It's kinda impossible to be as absolute as you want to be but also have your head-in-the-sand about it. You kinda gotta pick one of those.. At the very least, just not a good look from the outside IMO.
- andsoitis 2mo agoOne helpful way to think about is to what extent your principles are rooted in emotions or rigidity, or whether your principles are rooted more in realism and practicality. Put differently: are you making decisions based on principles that are crafted with the goal of CHANGING the world? Or are you making decisions based on principles that are crafted to NAVIGATE a dynamic, fuzzy, ever-changing world?
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- infecto 2mo agoI get tired of it because it just becomes a tit for tat war and you end up with these extremely polarized communities. Codeberg is not for me, I could never get over them keeping the anubis anime girls on, but it would be nice if open source communities were a bit more open. There will always be a line to draw but some of the current rules feel arbitrary.
- m4rtink 2mo agoThe whole Fedora infrastructure shows the default cute Anubis character (while protecting said infrastructure from AI scrappers) & I don't see any problems with that. :)
- infecto 2mo agoI don’t object to anime or furry art. I just think shared infrastructure serving a broad technical audience is better off staying visually neutral. Once branding starts signaling subcultures, the discussion too often shifts from the software to identity. Given the other decisions some of these communities have made it makes sense. Not for me but that’s ok!
- hedora 2mo agoIs there a bypass for those yet? Not all of the machines I have run it at a reasonable pace, so I'd like to just farm the challenge to some other machine. My nice desktop that I use for C++/Rust/Formal Verification takes multiple minutes sometimes, and I'd rather not replace the motherboard over this, or figure out why it's not using the GPU/whatever. OTOH, I have a MacBook with Apple's terrible window manager. It blows through it in a few seconds. The same is true of my ancient phone, and some newer low-power mini-pc's, etc.
- account42 2mo agoJust set your user agent to wget.
- CaptainFever 2mo agoIt exists. Search up POW blocker or Anubis blocker extensions.
- negura 2mo agowe're rapidly movement towards an internet where it will be the bad actors hiding their "personal baggage", who will end up in a little corner. as it should be. it's those people who have harmed the world at a global scale. by asking to separate technology from personal & societal values