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Flux 3
- thisisauserid 2mo ago- Showed close to zero examples of people. - Frivolous use of the term World Model. - Claims 20 seconds of video, shows only jumpcuts. Coming soon!
- sexy_seedbox 2mo agoMany video examples on /r/stablediffusion
- bobthebob 2mo agoAnd they are stunning
- thisisauserid 2mo agoNone within 24 hours of the announcement that show realistic human faces for than 3 seconds.
- fractorial 2mo agoFunny how rule #3 is > No nudity, lewdness, or sexually suggestive imagery. If it wouldn’t be appropriate for a workplace or younger audience, don’t post it here. NSFW tags are not an exception, stay classy. Emphasis on the second sentence; where do these people work?!
- lava_pidgeon 2mo agoReddit is open for minors and parents browse Reddit on their leisure time. Otherwise a Gen Ai has to check this subreddit
- vitorgrs 2mo agoYeah, very weird launch. I was like... where's the videos?
- smokel 2mo ago> Frivolous use of the term World Model The term "world model" as it was once used in model-based RL can now apparently refer to anything as silly as linear regression. Then again, the RL folks probably borrowed the term from behavioral scientists before them. It's probably best to simply accept this :/ A similar thing happened to "object oriented" which has been misused by philosophers and visual artists alike.
- mdp2021 2mo ago> probably borrowed the term from behavioral scientists It's from epistemology. It is not there to refer to the subjective but to the objective. > A similar thing happened to "object oriented" which has been misused by philosophers and visual artists alike For instance?
- smokel 2mo agoIn the 1990s "Object-Oriented Ontology" was introduced by Graham Harman [1]. The name was borrowed from computing, but its meaning has little or nothing to do with Simula or Smalltalk. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Harman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Harman
- mdp2021 2mo agoThis is very interesting especially in the terms of what I think some call a "rabbit hole", but we could be curious on how and why you saw misuse.
- Der_Einzige 2mo agoThe OOO/"Speculative Realism" crowd are loony charlatans who make the current post-modern neo marxist politburo who runs the humanities parts of academia look downright sane. My response to unironic OOO believers is that we must wage war on objects: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistentialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistentialism
- fidotron 2mo agoI'd have way more sympathy for the world-model-term-misuse complaints if the ML world hadn't studiously ignored and then reinvented so many fields over the years. https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.06485 https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.06485 is enough to make any half decent game dev sit around wondering what was going on, as well as the general "maybe we're wasting a lot of space with all these floats?" At least now LLMs can tell them what SoTA is in other fields before they try to rediscover it.
- teiferer 2mo agoLots of words about multi-modal but then this: > our mission to develop real-world visual intelligence Visual is mono-modal, isn't it?
- nerdsniper 2mo agoIs this really the value-add comment you’re going with?
- camillomiller 2mo agoSays the one who posts this comment?
- cpldcpu 2mo agoits doing video, audio, images and motion. I think that counts as multimodal.
- teiferer 2mo agoIndeed, but audio isn't exactly "visual", is it? And I'm not sure video, images and motion are actually 3 different things. Images are just still motion and videos capture motion, so it's really just "video and audio" of which one is visual, the other is not, thus my confused/surprised comment.
- frotaur 2mo agoSorry because pointing this is a bit tired by now, but reading already the first two paragraph thete is this unmistakable stench of LLM slop writing. Immediately disengaged.
- camillomiller 2mo agoCorrect reaction
- cobolexpert 2mo agoThanks for the heads-up
- Good4boothee 2mo ago[dead]
- user43928 2mo agoIt comes back as AI written when checked in Pangram, but I am skeptical. It does not seem as grating as the slop I typically see in README.md files or generated docs.
- TeMPOraL 2mo agoNobody is forcing you to read it. If you lose some interesting information because you don't like how it sounds, that's your loss.
- zmmmmm 2mo ago> It jointly learns from images, videos, and audio within a unified architecture, because what it needs to learn is not any one of these elements in isolation. I'm confused, videos contain images and audio ...?
- ibotty 2mo agoThat's most likely a disagreement on terms. In the media world, video is only the moving images, not audio. This is separate from images, that are meant to be still images.
- PxldLtd 2mo agoIt's more a comment about the feature detection I think; all image, video and audio input contribute to the same weights/activations that can produce image, video and audio output.
- EricBurnett 2mo agoVideo contains images (frames), but not every image would reasonably be found in the frames of a video, or interpreted spatially. In the space of world model synthesis, consider blueprints, relationship diagrams, pages of instructions, sheet music, or a boarding pass.
- mattmanser 2mo agoOpen-weight plans are near the bottom (Launch section): - Video and audio generation and editing through APIs and private weight access. (“FLUX 3 Video”) - Action prediction through selected research and commercial partners, beginning with mimic robotics (“FLUX-mimic and FLUX 3 Action”) - Image synthesis and editing through APIs and private weight access. (“FLUX 3 Image”) - Open-weight access to a multimodal backbone, for content creation (video, audio and image) and action prediction. (“FLUX 3 Dev”)
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- user43928 2mo agoI hope the open-weight versions will be SOTA. > Over the next few weeks and months, we will make the following capabilities available > Open-weight access to a multimodal backbone, for content creation (video, audio and image) and action prediction. (“FLUX 3 Dev”) > We will also release more technical details on the underlying approach.
- 3form 2mo agoOpen-weight promise seems nice, but 1) I've seen people commenting that these hopes amounted to nothing for some previous releases (no idea which promises were made though); and 2) if the backbone is released as Dev, what will be missing? I can't easily tell from the post.
- iLoveOncall 2mo agoI run some of the 2.3 models locally so I'm not sure where you saw that they didn't follow their words?
- tarruda 2mo agoIt is not that they don't release open weights, but some users report that they are significantly inferior to the closed versions.
- musebox35 2mo agodev variants are usually cfg distilled which means that directly finetuning isn’t as effective. In the past, for the flux2 klein models,they released base versions that are not distilled. So it will probably be a while before you can fully take advantage of the open weights.
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- SubiculumCode 2mo agoWell, unified multimodal intelligence is the only way we will get to The Terminator, which seems to be the goal now of Silicon Valley and every Nation State with a military budget, so have at.
- UberFly 2mo agoI wish you were being hyperbolic but I know better.
- SubiculumCode 2mo agoI don't even know anymore, to be honest. I talk to AIs more than I do with humans, these days...So who knows
- dgellow 2mo agoThat doesn’t sound healthy
- SubiculumCode 2mo agoWell, probably not, but I am not engaging in socialization. I am using it to help me decide among competing statistical modeling approaches, or other aspects of my research, including coding, neuroimaging pipelines, and an assortment of other thorny issues that come with longitudinal/developmental neuroscience.
- Gecko4072 2mo agoI thought the clips were real footage until they were dancing in a flooded room.
- vouaobrasil 2mo agoThe fact that people keep developing this technology shows that the true problem is not that machines are likely to become intelligent, but that people have already become machines - unthinking and without any care to the future whatsoever.
- mdp2021 2mo agoShow it, don't just say it. The argument would be?
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- mdp2021 2mo ago"One-shot learning" is still part of the discipline, actively studied (definitely in the past and surely in the present).
- gillesjacobs 2mo agoSame person that was mocking the hands in image generation in 2023, is the same person that was saying 'hands are fixed but it can't generate "the red dog jumps over the jump rope held by the blue pelican while juggling 5 balls"' in 2024, is the same person that posted this.
- jdthedisciple 2mo agoIt's incredible how negative and dismissive the comments in here are while here I am thinking the model actually looks impressively capable. But then again I heard the downers have always been the first to leave their dung comments here so let's see...
- ra 2mo agoIt would be interesting to see some time-series sentiment analysis of HN. Subjectively it feels like there's much negativity on HN these days, I hope I'm wrong.
- roenxi 2mo agoBunch of software engineers are worried about their future employment prospects.
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- indymike 2mo agoIt's not that as much as the usual something new, complain about rapid change.
- rclkrtrzckr 2mo agos/software engineers/filmmakers/
- deadbabe 2mo agofilmmakers have the most to gain here, now anyone with a good idea for a story can just prompt out their own full length movie or tv show.
- CamperBob2 2mo agoBefore AI: 90% of everything was crap After AI: 99% of everything is crap ... but there will be >10x more of it, so we'll ultimately end up with more good stuff.
- doitright99 2mo agoAI slop trained on copyrighted content.
- csvm 2mo ago"Horseless slop trained on centuries of coachmakers' and blacksmiths' work. It'll never replace a real horse." - Hacker News commenter in 1889 criticizing the automobile
- human305893 2mo agoThis is close to the stupidest thing I've ever read. Congrats
- TeMPOraL 2mo agoHow about CNC mill being slop trained on millions of hours of blacksmith and machinist experience?
- vladsiu 2mo ago[dead]
- saejox 2mo agoi don't get why they are investing money on image/video gen. All generations i have see looked blurry, lacking in fine details and missing the artistic touch (lacks meaning? lifeless?)
- mdp2021 2mo ago> why they are investing money Maybe they presume that after a series of "good enough to some" they may be getting near the Real Thing?
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- make_it_sure 2mo agofirst AI thing coming from Europe that gives high hopes
- rekpero 2mo agoI have a feeling open-weight models ought to be outperforming proprietary ones by now, but that still hasn’t happened. So far, Nano Banana and GPT-2 Image seem to be the best in class, and Flux still isn’t crossing that quality bar.
- abdusco 2mo agoI wonder if this also creates people with huge heads and short necks like Flux Klein does.
- Tenoke 2mo agoFlux 2 Dev Klein has practically been the best you could use on most commercial hardware so I really hope Flux 3 has a comparable updated open-weights model to it. if not it'd be a great loss to most hobbyists.
- NSUserDefaults 2mo ago> a model must learn a representation of the world: […] and how events sound I honestly hope they put an unrealistic amount of wilhelm scream into the learning process, just for fun.
- bensyverson 2mo ago"Actually, let me be careful placing the rubber sealing. If I do it too roughly, it screams."
- OldMatey 2mo agoI am very excited for this. 2.3 was excellent and I've seen clips from people who got early access along with reading their reflections on it and I think this will be the new SOTA for home use.
- tormeh 2mo agoThese people are hiring in... Freiburg im Breisgau? Wonder how hiring is working out for them there.
- toilet 2mo agothere's a reason people call it Flyburg im Nicegau.
- cachius 2mo agoWhy Fly?
- marvinborner 2mo agoBeing "fly" is slang for being cool. It has been officially chosen as German youth word of the year in 2016 [0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_word_of_the_year_(Germany) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_word_of_the_year_(German...
- cachius 2mo agoOk boomer. SCNR 2016 is a while ago. Flew by me
- mindhunter 2mo agoA very beautiful place on earth: one friend who lives there enjoys road biking in the surrounding mountains. Another friend does cross-country skiing in his lunch break (in winter times).
- tormeh 2mo agoI can totally see that. I imagine it's great for hiking and food. But if/when this company has an issue you'll have to move again or start working at the local Sparkasse or something.
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- yangcheng 2mo agoI hope flux will include a 3D generation model. right now the open-weights version of 3D is failing behind closed source by a big margin. Hopefully the improved spatial ability helps with robotics too
- pwillia7 2mo agoAwesome -- glad they're going to release the open weight version! I've been waiting for an excuse to re jump into AI OS image gen!
- ex-aws-dude 2mo agoIf you think about it why is language/image even separate from video? Isn’t video + audio all you need?
- doubleorseven 2mo agovideo is just a group of images (GOP) if the gist is what you're after
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- forgotusername6 2mo agoIs anyone feeding models touch data? It seems the main thing we want the robots to do is touch things, but we are just feeding them audio/video/images. The model has to learn how to touch things despite never having touched anything before. Perhaps that's why they all look so hesitant when they touch things?
- downrightmike 2mo agoIts faster to just have them simulate touching things, they figure it out way faster that way
- AmbroseBierce 2mo agoAmazing. This will be fundamental for the future for robots to distinguish the sound of the poors getting close to Besos/Musk's/Zuckerberg bunkers and quickly adapt to any new kind of attack by the masses, robots will quickly learn to adapt to the behavior of the attackers, quickly infer where they are grouped, their numbers and so for. Of course there will be feuds from robots of different family groups but they will be minimal as it quickly becomes symmetrical robot conflict with high casualties as they learn too fast from each other, it's likely those will be avoided, it will be after all much easier to confront humans for any given resources. Truly a pinnacle for technology, albeit perhaps not for mankind.
- vrganj 2mo agoWhen they hide in their bunkers, who's to stop people from pouring concrete down the ventilation shafts?
- isoprophlex 2mo agoOr aerosolized LSD...
- rambojohnson 2mo agothe grift that keeps on grifting. no examples longer than a second, non recent anyway... just more hype, and no substance.
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- nuclearsugar 2mo agoHope the open-weights reduces the VRAM requirement compared to Flux 2.
- casey2 2mo agoIt's wild that something like this isn't top of all major news sites. I think people are in shock with how fast world models are progressing.
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