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I think many long-haul truckers work in pairs for this reason?

by SonOfLilit 2mo ago

reactordev 2mo ago
And split the revenue? No way Jose. Team driving is not preferred.
- nradov 2mo ago
  What are you talking about? All of the major long-haul trucking companies hire team drivers. https://schneiderjobs.com/truck-driving-jobs/driving-opportunities/team https://schneiderjobs.com/truck-driving-jobs/driving-opportu...
  - reactordev 2mo ago
    Yes, they do, and you should look into how team drivers are paid. It’s not a good deal. So again, team driving is not ideal for the worker, only the mega carrier. You’ll make less as a team driver than a solo driver.
crote 2mo ago
You can, but (at least in Europe) it is rarely done. A big problem is that it doesn't count as a daily rest if the vehicle is moving. This means in practice that the longest you can drive in pairs is 4.5h A, 4.5h B, 4.5h A, 4.5h B, 1h A, 1h B, followed by at least 9 hours downtime. Still a 20-hour non-stop drive, but not even remotely 24/7. You'd need additional standby drivers at a remote base, at which point you could also just swap the trailer to another truck. In practice this means it is rarely worth it. Combine it with the schedule going out-of-sync with the days, and for regular freight it is almost certainly more expensive than just giving each driver their own truck. The exception to the rule is high-priority cargo which for one reason or another can't be done via air. Take Formula 1, for example: with back-to-back races they have just three days to tear everything down, drive it across Europe, and build it back up again. It's a 15-hour drive without any delays, so having a solo driver rest for an additional 9 hours halfway through is unacceptable. With a driver pair it is easily achievable, and the additional costs are irrelevant.
mapt 2mo ago
Regulations are a bit different, not just on what counts as rest, but on physical format. The normal US front-engine is rare in Europe. The US extended sleeper generally doesn't exist in Europe The European compact cabover generally doesn't exist in the US. The scale influences this more than a little bit. The longest drives you'd find it sensible to make hauling freight inside Europe are between 12 and 18 hours of nonstop travel, while in the US they're more like 40-60 hours.

I think many long-haul truckers work in pairs for this reason?

reactordev 2mo ago

And split the revenue? No way Jose. Team driving is not preferred.

nradov 2mo ago
What are you talking about? All of the major long-haul trucking companies hire team drivers. https://schneiderjobs.com/truck-driving-jobs/driving-opportunities/team https://schneiderjobs.com/truck-driving-jobs/driving-opportu...
- reactordev 2mo ago
  Yes, they do, and you should look into how team drivers are paid. It’s not a good deal. So again, team driving is not ideal for the worker, only the mega carrier. You’ll make less as a team driver than a solo driver.

crote 2mo ago

You can, but (at least in Europe) it is rarely done. A big problem is that it doesn't count as a daily rest if the vehicle is moving. This means in practice that the longest you can drive in pairs is 4.5h A, 4.5h B, 4.5h A, 4.5h B, 1h A, 1h B, followed by at least 9 hours downtime. Still a 20-hour non-stop drive, but not even remotely 24/7. You'd need additional standby drivers at a remote base, at which point you could also just swap the trailer to another truck. In practice this means it is rarely worth it. Combine it with the schedule going out-of-sync with the days, and for regular freight it is almost certainly more expensive than just giving each driver their own truck. The exception to the rule is high-priority cargo which for one reason or another can't be done via air. Take Formula 1, for example: with back-to-back races they have just three days to tear everything down, drive it across Europe, and build it back up again. It's a 15-hour drive without any delays, so having a solo driver rest for an additional 9 hours halfway through is unacceptable. With a driver pair it is easily achievable, and the additional costs are irrelevant.

mapt 2mo ago

Regulations are a bit different, not just on what counts as rest, but on physical format. The normal US front-engine is rare in Europe. The US extended sleeper generally doesn't exist in Europe The European compact cabover generally doesn't exist in the US. The scale influences this more than a little bit. The longest drives you'd find it sensible to make hauling freight inside Europe are between 12 and 18 hours of nonstop travel, while in the US they're more like 40-60 hours.