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How popular is Grok compared to other companies models for SWE tasks? I almost never hear it talked about against OpenAI's or Anthropic's products
by tbomb 3mo ago
How popular is Grok compared to other companies models for SWE tasks? I almost never hear it talked about against OpenAI's or Anthropic's products
- postflopclarity 3mo ago[flagged]
- unsupp0rted 3mo agoIn addition to "nonconsenual porn", it's far superior to almost any (actually any?) open source LLM
- 0x70run 3mo ago[flagged]
- Pedro_Ribeiro 3mo agoWhat kind of comment is this? Such bad faith and adding nothing to the discussion.
- postflopclarity 3mo agohttps://www.wired.com/story/grok-is-still-hosting-sexualized-deepfakes-of-famous-women/ https://www.wired.com/story/grok-is-still-hosting-sexualized... https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/musks-grok-chatbot-faces-eu-privacy-investigation-over-sexualized-deepfake-images https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/musks-grok-chatbot-faces-...
- bigyabai 3mo agoIf they were a frontier lab, you'd know.
- minimaxir 3mo agoYou can very roughly proxy popularity of close-sourced models through OpenRouter token throughput. Grok has an order of magnitude less OpenRouter usage than Claude, GPT, even Gemini.
- andy99 3mo agoBecause of the of the political stuff, they have a bad reputation I think and are taken less seriously (I feel this way). They have an opportunity imo to break free from that and just not do the gatekeeping / condescension that the other providers are starting, and become more mainstream.
- sirbutters 3mo ago[flagged]
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- ETH_start 3mo agoPlease don't comment like this on Hacker News
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- minimaxir 3mo agoEven without the politics, Elon has shown that he will weaponize his platforms against people/companies he personally doesn't like (e.g. specific bans/demotions to external sites like Substack and Bluesky). Using Grok is therefore a supply chain risk and it's not nearly good enough to offset that risk.
- alex1138 3mo agoI do just want to focus on the 'even without the politics' asterisk though because sometimes there is a risk people think everyone on x side (x meaning 'a given side', not x.com) is wrong You can claim Elon bought x as some sort of power trip. Fine. Willing to entertain it, I have no dog in the fight. I'm not a member of the Elon fan club. And yet Twitter (under Dorsey though I don't think he was involved) was banning tons of people under guises of 'misinfo' that wasn't misinfo
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- small_model 3mo agoThey were missing a harness like Claude Code or Codex (terminal). However they recently released Grok Build, which is probably the fasted I've used, in terms of responsiveness, but didn't have a model at Opus 4.7/8 level. The thing is if they add 4.5 to Grok Build and keep improving the harness I think it can compete (cheaper and faster).
- everfrustrated 3mo agoI've been using Grok Build over the last couple weeks. It's actually a very good CLI. The Grok Build 0.1 model isn't great but can also use Composer 2.5 which is excellent. Well worth trying.
- redox99 3mo agoCompletely irrelevant, which was expected considering their previous models were vastly outclassed by other models at SWE. This is the first grok model that seems actually pretty competitive at SWE.
- pelotron 3mo agoNo one's made a MechaHitler joke yet?
- khurs 3mo agoWasn't, which is why they purchased Cursor.
- ls612 3mo agoThey had two big substantive flaws on top of the political stuff. Aside from a brief window last summer Grok has been behind the curve for coding, and before the Cursor acquisition they didn’t have a harness. Now they have an Opus tier model and a real harness they have at a minimum the opportunity to undercut the competition on price. And with the 5T and 10T models being trained on Colossus 2 they have the possibility to leap ahead.