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Tough week for euros. Cars that record your face while driving and now apps snooping on communications.
by PowerElectronix 3mo ago
Tough week for euros. Cars that record your face while driving and now apps snooping on communications.
- artisinal 3mo agoPerhaps in the future cars will not only record your face but also listen in for hate speech. Most cars have SOS and GPS modules so calling the police if someone in the car shouts a slur is just connecting some code together.
- shevy-java 3mo agoWell, it is some kind of social control. People who conform, have more rights than those who reject fascism.
- Z0rp 3mo agoCar could also become judge and executioner. Swift justice is just one curve away
- ThrowawayTestr 3mo agoDrive you straight to prison
- artisinal 3mo agoIt is cheaper for the government to just lock the car doors for the length of your sentence. Saves them space in prison. You are allowed to use the McDrive twice a day. The windows will drop 8 centimeters, enough for a Big Mac.
- morkalork 3mo agoAmerica is leading the way on that one: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/07/two-teens-learn-the-hard-way-not-to-do-toy-gun-drivebys-from-a-waymo/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2026/07/two-teens-learn-the-har...
- yubblegum 3mo agoWhy do you think this is only going to be in Europe? This will be the global norm modulo some astroid hitting earth or civilizational crash. The trajectory is crystal clear: access to information (AI), control over personal finance (CBDC), privacy of personal communications (handful of big tech MITM in everything), metered social interactions (today China, tomorrow the world over).
- ButlerianJihad 3mo agoYou say that like it’s a bad fnord
- john_strinlai 3mo agoi am interested in hearing why you think it is not god awful
- RIMR 3mo agoI mean, I get that these things are typically matters of opinion, but if you value things like freedom and privacy, these things are objectively bad.
- spwa4 3mo agoUntil the sun grows in a final blaze of glory and burns all Qurans at the same time for 100 million years?
- logicchains 3mo agoFortunately the US has not only freedom of speech in the constitution but also tens of millions of armed civilians that place a hard limit on how much control the government can have over people's speech. The only reason the Chinese government can achieve such control over speech is because it can disappear anyone who speaks against it. It doesn't even need guns; Nepalese youth managed to stop social media censorship there just by going to the political capital and threatening to beat the MPs to death.
- niels8472 3mo ago
- neongod 3mo agoThe car’s computer voice: John Spartan you are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality code!
- greenleafone7 3mo agoI think this should go one step further. If you don't praise the magnificence of your local EU politicians then your car's breaks will stop working and an electric shot will be administered to everyone presently in the car. That will satisfy EU-rocrats. The coming revolution will be well deserved I think.
- vrganj 3mo agoMan, the paranoid ramblings every time the EU gets mentioned here really are something else...
- Aerroon 3mo agoThen maybe they should stop doing things that invite this nonsense? We've already been down the road of the EU mandating ISPs save all your browsing history with the Data Retention Directive. At this point the EU has to prove that they are not doing things like that rather than getting the benefit of the doubt.
- greenleafone7 3mo agoYeah man, like ... the EU just wants to control what you say, where you go, what you buy, while themselves are one of the most corrupt organization in the history of Europe, why don't people love them is beyond me. I think you are confusing what a private citizen is. Focus on the word 'private'. Ursula should know NOTHING about me. I should know everything about Ursula, she lives on MY dime.
- sam_lowry_ 3mo agoThis is called eCall, a fairly intrusive system built into even some motorcycles.
- specproc 3mo agoDanger, danger. Cannabis detected in the vehicle.
- mito88 3mo agothe children... :)
- Cider9986 3mo agoIt's not particularly effective with school shootings in the USA.
- joshuat 3mo agowhat about...
- remashedspood 3mo agoMore guns?
- MrDrMcCoy 3mo agoRight. The root of the problem is that the kids are unarmed and can't defend themselves. We need an organization that does for kids what is done for the pandas [0]. [0]: https://youtu.be/sHY_xOj2M_g https://youtu.be/sHY_xOj2M_g
- mito88 3mo ago[flagged]
- andrepd 3mo agoCars sold for the past years already record and transmit all your movements and telemetry, I'm sad to say.
- sscaryterry 3mo agoHonestly, it is mostly a reaction to how society has evolved, for the worse. Rock and hard place. The worst thing I have to hide is knowledge about my intentions, none of which are bad/illegal/immoral. Scan away, I'd rather try to protect my children, other children from unscrupulous characters.
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- haywalk 3mo ago> The worst thing I have to hide is knowledge about my intentions, none of which are bad/illegal/immoral. Correction: None of which are bad/illegal/immoral _right now_. The "I have nothing to hide" crowd will surely change their tune the moment any of their data starts to be used against them.
- sscaryterry 3mo agoIt is being used against me, but not my governments, by private enterprises :)
- imtringued 3mo agoThose private enterprises just want your money. That's bad for a different reason, but the risk of being harassed or stalked by a private enterprise is very low unless you stand between them and their money. The government can have completely arbitrary motivations and enact laws that punish people for the sake of punishment or just outright dismantle democracy by making it illegal to criticize politicians, something that is already happening in Germany.
- fragmede 3mo agoThat would have to happen, and by then it's too late. The best historical example is, not to Godwin the thread, but Dutch Jews who registered with the government and then when the Nazi's took over, that information was used against them. Political expression online is relatively safe under the current regime, but who knows if a future regime will also feel that way. If you posted something online about immigrants or criticizing a politician that became illegal to express, where would you be? Seems far-fetched, but in the history of the world, it isn't. People would rather not get persecuted for saying something they said 30 or more years ago because a lot can change in that kind of time. What once was acceptable becomes not in the different light of decades later. I'm sure if you go back to the very first comments I've made here, you'll find something embarrassing, though maybe not illegal. (An ernest plea that information wants to be free, probably.) Communication wasn't digitally indexed and recorded forever, historically, and something intimate I whisper to a lover or very close friends doesn't ever need to see the light of day. The guise that there's a predator out there, trying to cocerce 13 year old children to have sex with them is a good cover by the government to gain this control, because how do we refuse that? Won't somebody think of the children? So we have to acknowledge that yes, there are bad people out there, and no, I don't support Prince Andrew or the Epstein class, but at the same time, in the history of government and abuses of power, Chat control is going to be used against you and I, and not the Epstein class.
- honeycrispy 3mo agoMaybe they should pause on being such snobs towards American politics to take a long hard look at themselves.
- varispeed 3mo agoI wait for mandated methane sensor in everyone's anus.
- vrganj 3mo agoBoy, do I have news for you: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-EDAD116F-3C73-40FA-A861-68112FF7961F.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-EDAD116...
- ndriscoll 3mo agoDidn't Biden's big infrastructure bill already mandate that NHTSA develop regulations to require driver monitoring sensors starting next year? Or was that provision cut or reverted?
- warkdarrior 3mo agoThat provision did get removed, but only for ICE cars.
- xienze 3mo ago[flagged]