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As others have said, it's Apple and they do not take kindly to other people leaking their technology/announcements ahead of time. See also: the time that ATI's

by danudey 4mo ago

As others have said, it's Apple and they do not take kindly to other people leaking their technology/announcements ahead of time. See also: the time that ATI's CEO told his employees that their chips would be powering Apple's to-be-announced hardware a few days before the announcement. Steve Jobs responded by pulling all of ATI's hardware from its demo units at the announcement, not mentioning ATI at all, cancelling a joint demonstration of the Radeon card that was going to be in the system, and never partnering with ATI again. https://web.archive.org/web/20001216031800/https://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2605858,00.html https://web.archive.org/web/20001216031800/https://www.zdnet...

formerly_proven 4mo ago
> and never partnering with ATI again. Except of course shipping ATI hardware for years afterwards, then also using nvidia, then dropping nvidia and only using ATI/AMD until transitioning to Apple Silicon.
- NewJazz 4mo ago
  Also Steve Jobs Apple is probably much different than today's Apple.
- danudey 4mo ago
  Well: 1. They kept existing designs, since even Jobs wasn't so crazy as to demand a complete re-architecture of existing laptop models on a whim; plus they probably also had contractual obligations/pre-purchase arrangements 2. They switched to nvidia, but from everything I know they also hated working with nvidia (IIRC Jobs accused nvidia of stealing Pixar tech) 3. AMD is a different company than ATI (technically), and Apple of that era was different than the Steve Jobs temper tantrum era. But yes, relevant details.
ifh-hn 4mo ago
Sounds like a bit of a dick...
- yonatan8070 4mo ago
  One word: "Courage"
  - ifh-hn 4mo ago
    Not sure I understand? Sounds like a temper tantrum to me.
    - kenferry 4mo ago
      Inside joke. Apple's marketing guy used the word "courage" as an explanation when removing the headphone jack.
      - LPisGood 4mo ago
        That decision had a lot of detractors at the time, but it ultimately seems to have been correct.
        _carbyau_ 4mo ago
        It still has a lot of detractors but it is hard to beat such a sheer market flex.
        m463 4mo ago
        I don't know if I agree. People who moved to bluetooth got arguably worse sound quality. For wired headphones, there were very few lightning headphones and they mostly sucked. Now with usb-c you can get a broader range of headphones (because other phones have gone with usb-c). either kind needs a dac inside the dongle, or the shell of the headphone, or have a bulky external dac. 3.5mm is still king for decent wired headphones/earbuds.
        jianfenglin 4mo ago
        Most people don't like wire and don't care about genuinely good sound through wire vs. artificially sweetened (DSP-ed) sound through Bluetooth. That's what Apple is targeting at, the mass consumer.
gouggoug 4mo ago
From the linked article, it was a press release, not just to his employees. > The incident began Monday when ATI, which supplies graphics cards for all Apple's current models, issued a four-paragraph news release that stated its Radeon processor would be featured in three new Mac models -- none of which were announced by Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL) until CEO Steve Jobs' Wednesday morning keynote address.
- danudey 4mo ago
  Oh, I misremembered then. Yikes.
isodev 4mo ago
It’s funny how exciting Apple Pay was when introduced, only Apple pulled the lock-everyone-in card and now we’re all using QRcodes.
- ZekeSulastin 4mo ago
  I guess the "we" depends strongly on location - I've no problem using Apple Pay basically everywhere except Walmart.
- MoonWalk 4mo ago
  No idea what this is referring to...
  - necovek 4mo ago
    Many countries in the world have local systems for quick, direct bank transfers encoded with QR codes to be used by local payment systems or local banking apps.
    - MoonWalk 4mo ago
      Huh, thanks. I've traveled a decent amount and have never seen this. "We're all using" is a huge overstatement.
- mixdup 4mo ago
  In the US you can use Apple Pay anywhere NFC payments are accepted. It's generally completely open on the acceptance side at this point
  - josephg 4mo ago
    Same here in australia. We had NFC payments ("tap and pay") since ~2006. Nearly a decade before apple pay launched in Nov 2015. For us, apple pay was like "oh, I can use my phone instead of my credit card? Neat." People use it everywhere here, just because its easier than carrying around a card.
  - 4mo ago
NetOpWibby 4mo ago
SHEESH

by danudey 4mo ago

formerly_proven 4mo ago

> and never partnering with ATI again. Except of course shipping ATI hardware for years afterwards, then also using nvidia, then dropping nvidia and only using ATI/AMD until transitioning to Apple Silicon.

NewJazz 4mo ago
Also Steve Jobs Apple is probably much different than today's Apple.
danudey 4mo ago
Well: 1. They kept existing designs, since even Jobs wasn't so crazy as to demand a complete re-architecture of existing laptop models on a whim; plus they probably also had contractual obligations/pre-purchase arrangements 2. They switched to nvidia, but from everything I know they also hated working with nvidia (IIRC Jobs accused nvidia of stealing Pixar tech) 3. AMD is a different company than ATI (technically), and Apple of that era was different than the Steve Jobs temper tantrum era. But yes, relevant details.

ifh-hn 4mo ago

Sounds like a bit of a dick...

yonatan8070 4mo ago
One word: "Courage"
- ifh-hn 4mo ago
  Not sure I understand? Sounds like a temper tantrum to me.
  - kenferry 4mo ago
    Inside joke. Apple's marketing guy used the word "courage" as an explanation when removing the headphone jack.
    - LPisGood 4mo ago
      That decision had a lot of detractors at the time, but it ultimately seems to have been correct.
      - _carbyau_ 4mo ago
        It still has a lot of detractors but it is hard to beat such a sheer market flex.
      - m463 4mo ago
        I don't know if I agree. People who moved to bluetooth got arguably worse sound quality. For wired headphones, there were very few lightning headphones and they mostly sucked. Now with usb-c you can get a broader range of headphones (because other phones have gone with usb-c). either kind needs a dac inside the dongle, or the shell of the headphone, or have a bulky external dac. 3.5mm is still king for decent wired headphones/earbuds.
        jianfenglin 4mo ago
        Most people don't like wire and don't care about genuinely good sound through wire vs. artificially sweetened (DSP-ed) sound through Bluetooth. That's what Apple is targeting at, the mass consumer.

gouggoug 4mo ago

From the linked article, it was a press release, not just to his employees. > The incident began Monday when ATI, which supplies graphics cards for all Apple's current models, issued a four-paragraph news release that stated its Radeon processor would be featured in three new Mac models -- none of which were announced by Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL) until CEO Steve Jobs' Wednesday morning keynote address.

danudey 4mo ago
Oh, I misremembered then. Yikes.

isodev 4mo ago

It’s funny how exciting Apple Pay was when introduced, only Apple pulled the lock-everyone-in card and now we’re all using QRcodes.

ZekeSulastin 4mo ago
I guess the "we" depends strongly on location - I've no problem using Apple Pay basically everywhere except Walmart.
MoonWalk 4mo ago
No idea what this is referring to...
- necovek 4mo ago
  Many countries in the world have local systems for quick, direct bank transfers encoded with QR codes to be used by local payment systems or local banking apps.
  - MoonWalk 4mo ago
    Huh, thanks. I've traveled a decent amount and have never seen this. "We're all using" is a huge overstatement.
mixdup 4mo ago
In the US you can use Apple Pay anywhere NFC payments are accepted. It's generally completely open on the acceptance side at this point
- josephg 4mo ago
  Same here in australia. We had NFC payments ("tap and pay") since ~2006. Nearly a decade before apple pay launched in Nov 2015. For us, apple pay was like "oh, I can use my phone instead of my credit card? Neat." People use it everywhere here, just because its easier than carrying around a card.
- 4mo ago

NetOpWibby 4mo ago

SHEESH