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I think that plenty of 'nerds' would very much disagree about that. Steering agents effectively is something that can take massive amounts of creativity and tal
by zozbot234 4mo ago
I think that plenty of 'nerds' would very much disagree about that. Steering agents effectively is something that can take massive amounts of creativity and talent and be quite helpful wrt. the final result. There's no real analogue of this in traditional programming.
- marmarama 4mo agoSure there's an analogue. It's being the tech lead of a team of junior to mid level developers. You design roughly what the solution should look like, split it into reasonable sized tasks so they don't go off the deep end, advise them on some of the details, then assign them the tasks and let them get on with it, keeping an eye on what they're doing, reviewing their output, and course correcting them when they go wrong. Just like with a team of humans, you have to use your judgement as to how much supervision they need individually and how large a task you can give them without them going off the rails.
- anygivnthursday 4mo agoThats my thought as well, LLM agents put you in the role of a (often micromanaging) tech/team lead of a small team, but the speed and fast feedback loop makes it look different.
- fragmede 4mo agoOh it's different alright. Yell at a human employee to tell them they're a fucking loser enough times and at best they'll quit on you. The way some people talk to their LLM is ghastly.
- anygivnthursday 4mo agoAnd there are also papers that tell thats effective https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.04950 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2510.04950
- eequah9L 4mo agoHm, on each interview since ever, every time the inevitable "where do you see yourself in X years" question popped up, I was like, I have no ambition of getting promoted to managers, if that's what you mean. I like coding. I want to keep coding. I can advise juniors if _that's_ what you mean. But I want to code. And here I am. Coding is becoming management in front of my eyes. Meh :-|
- jimbokun 4mo agoYes. As AI improves every white collar job becomes a management job. With the previous conception of an Individual Contributor role disappearing.
- anygivnthursday 4mo agoAnd isnt that management job also tomorrow's disappearing IC role? A management agent seems quite possible to me.
- fragmede 4mo agohttps://ceobench.com/ https://ceobench.com/
- SpicyLemonZest 4mo agoWhat’s hard to automate about management is getting employees on board, not the concrete tasks. If an AI instructed you to spend 5 minutes a day talking to it about your day, would you do it?
- anygivnthursday 4mo agoNo, thats not what gets automated. My comment was for the parent where IC roles transformed to agent managment roles, which I think just another role for agents to manage - themselves. In other words coordination of other agents, not humans, who are now out of the loop.
- pjmlp 4mo agoSure there is, offshoring, now the chat window is with my computer instead on the other side of the planet. Not everyone wants to be a team lead not doing coding any longer.
- tripledry 4mo agoAlso, I'd rather lead a team of humans that I can interact and talk with in real life instead of a team of bots.
- nearlyepic 4mo agoYou keep telling yourself that.
- jimbokun 4mo agoHow so? The models get better and better at understanding the intent of a prompt and doing more useful work with less intervention.