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Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers, Arrests 2 for Aiding Cyberattacks
- 0xAstro 5mo ago> Stark Industries Solutions jarvis, whats the status of my dutch servers
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- SecretDreams 5mo ago> charging them with violating sanctions law by directly or indirectly making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities. Did you read this part?
- msh 5mo agoThe article spells it out clearly: charging them with violating sanctions law by directly or indirectly making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities.
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- htx80nerd 5mo ago>"making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities." this is very vague
- antonvs 5mo agoIt comes from EU law. E.g. Council Regulation No 269/2014 defines economic resources as "assets of every kind, whether tangible or intangible, movable or immovable, which are not funds but may be used to obtain funds, goods or services." (https://finance.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2020-06/200619-opinion-financial-sanctions_en.pdf https://finance.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2020-06/200619-opi...) And of course "EU-sanctioned entities" is a rather well-defined list, details here: https://data.europa.eu/data/datasets/consolidated-list-of-persons-groups-and-%09entities-subject-to-eu-financial-sanctions https://data.europa.eu/data/datasets/consolidated-list-of-pe...
- cryptoegorophy 5mo agoSanctions thing is such a hypocrisy. Russia pumped through ukraine about $1B worth of gas PER DAY after the war started and continued for about 2 years, yet they sanctioned some companies that were like a drop in the ocean of those billions paid to Putin
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- binaryturtle 5mo ago> …charging them with violating sanctions law by directly or indirectly making economic resources available to EU-sanctioned entities… I guess that's why.
- bunbun69 5mo agoI feel like you’re only asking this because you disagree with their charges, not because you genuinely have no clue why they’re arrested.
- analog8374 5mo agoIt would be nice if they named/prosecuted the people who paid them to perform the attacks.
- parineum 5mo agoLaw enforcement doesn't typically talk about ongoing investigations.
- dist-epoch 5mo agoThe FSB? What are you going to do about that. Russia shot down an airliner full of Netherlands citizens and there were no repercussions.
- efitz 5mo agoI’ve been on the defender side of security my whole career. I know in some markets crime pays more than legitimate work, but it never ceases to amaze me how much thought, effort, planning, and engineering goes into providing infrastructure IT services for cybercriminals. The people involved definitely have the skills to be profitable at legitimate work; it just puzzles me that they choose to support criminals.
- r_lee 5mo ago> The people involved definitely have the skills to be profitable at legitimate work; it just puzzles me that they choose to support criminals. I don't think it's that easy to go legit. having a tech job nowadays is already a luxury
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- Aurornis 5mo agoI watched the downfall and eventual jailing of someone who had a great job, career, and family after he started getting involved in cybercrime. As far as I can make sense of it, he enjoyed the thrill of feeling superior to others: Evading the law, exploiting people who viewed as stupid, and enriching himself in the process. He got caught through a mistake that was really dumb in retrospect. I think he believed his intellectual superiority combined with the stupidity of others so much that eventually he couldn’t imagine anyone catching him.
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- kspacewalk2 5mo ago>As far as I can make sense of it, he enjoyed the thrill of feeling superior to others: Evading the law, exploiting people who viewed as stupid, and enriching himself in the process. I sadly see this pattern of thinking far more often than I want to in my fellow eastern Europeans.
- legacynl 5mo ago> those sanctions failed to target Stark’s remaining connection to the Internet — an Internet service provider based in the Netherlands called MIRhosting. The fuck, i walk past the office of mirhosting every day
- ziofill 5mo agoMaybe it's because I haven't had my coffee yet, but I swear my brain read: "Neanderthals Seize 800 Servers"
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- debarshri 5mo agoThose who are curious about notorious data centers, please see Cyberbunker [1]. I think conceptually it is cool. Also in the netherlands. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberBunker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberBunker
- pocksuppet 5mo agoWe should note these are not even slightly legitimate hosting companies, lest anyone worry too much about their non-KYC offshore servers. These aren't hosting companies that ask little, they are just directly front companies for Russian intelligence, owned by members of Russian intelligence, they don't do anything else, they don't provide hosting service to regular people even if you want it (I have tried). Unlike in Germany where I lost several social media accounts because my email service provider (pissmail) went to jail because someone signed up for his service and sent spam.
- nalekberov 5mo agoAny source to back up your claims? Otherwise it seemed pretty much a conspiracy theory to me.
- consp 5mo agoThe company inherited all their customers and equipment from a sanctioned company (according to the Dutch news report). Should be enough for most people.
- chatmasta 5mo agoThat just means the sanctioned company was selling to sanctioned entities, not that it was only selling to them.
- consp 5mo agoWho cares, that's a due diligence failure on their part. No consumers were involved. Do business with shady companies risk shady shit happening...
- nalekberov 5mo agoSanctioned company != works for the government.
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- consumer451 5mo agoWhen I was learning some homelab stuff, and was setting up pfSense, I was able to see the geos of all the scans/attacks on my home internet IP. I was surprised to see that Netherlands was up there with Russia and China in volume. They all got geo blocked. What is it about the Netherlands that makes them so attractive to these people?
- mvdwoord 5mo agoHigh bandwidth and (relatively) low sentencing would be my guess..
- Cider9986 5mo agoThat's where the servers are. See all the tor nodes in Netherlands. They aren't actually in the Netherlands.
- l23k4 5mo agoWhat is this supposed to mean? Most of the tor nodes in Netherlands are actually physically in Netherlands.
- pocksuppet 5mo agoAmsterdam is one of the biggest (perhaps the biggest) global internet hubs - European equivalent of North Virginia - and also not a totalitarian country like Germany (otherwise there'd be more in Frankfurt).
- runtime_terror 5mo agoI'm I the only one that read "Neanderthal Seizes 800 Servers..."? Would have loved to read that article.
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- nubinetwork 5mo agoRelated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48241775 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48241775
- pbgcp2026 5mo agoI see couple of issues here: > 1) "Netherlands Seizes 800 Servers" - this should not have happened. Full stop. It's not US, UK or even DE. We are losing, people. > 2) They did not turn those into "honey pots". meaning: they did not want a fix. They wanted a show. > 3) I bet it's just a tip of an iceberg. Care to assume how many of those are hosted at "major cloud providers"? Money talks ...
- l23k4 5mo ago> Care to assume how many of those are hosted at "major cloud providers"? Zero (not a guess)
- account42 5mo agoNow can we also seize some servers for the massive organized DDOS campaign that seems to be plaguing many small hosts lately or are the originators too big for that?