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What are the equivalent institutions in China? Do they do open houses?
by JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
What are the equivalent institutions in China? Do they do open houses?
- joe_mamba 7mo agoWhy do you ask? Do you assume those fired NSF workers want to go work in China now? Or that China manages its domestic variant of the NSF better and accepts people critical of the CCP ideology?
- throwaway27448 7mo agoMost people in china are not members of the CPC. And yes, they clearly are more competent.
- joe_mamba 7mo ago[flagged]
- XorNot 7mo ago"but China is worse!" is an excuse wearing well past paper thin at this point.
- joe_mamba 7mo agoExcept I never said that. Learn to read please.
- gverrilla 7mo ago> The country has a social credit score Fake news.
- joe_mamba 7mo agoGO read and inform yourself.
- solid_fuel 7mo ago> The country has a social credit score Yeah that is concerning. Glad the US doesn't have any sort of credit scoring system that might make it hard to get out of poverty. That would be really scary. Imagine if you had to pass a credit check to get an apartment!
- joe_mamba 7mo agoNeedless whataboutism to move offtopic.
- solid_fuel 7mo agoYou're the one who brought up the "social credit score" in a conversation about moving from America to China. The fact that America already has a credit system which locks people out of financial access in the same way is very relevant to the topic, not "needless whataboutism".
- Spooky23 7mo agoOur entire economy is built on scientific advancement and advantage. The dismantling of everything to maximize executive power in order to maximize grift and corruption will have effects for decades. This is the American version of the cultural revolution. We’re pushing people to be plumbers instead of scientists.
- throwworhtthrow 7mo ago> Our entire economy is built on scientific advancement and advantage. Devil's advocate: Only productivity gains, not the entire economy, are built on scientific advancement. But wages haven't grown with productivity in half a century, so the loss of scientific advantage won't affect wage growth, therefore the economy will be fine. (I know it's not convincing, but it's the best I can conjure.)
- datsci_est_2015 7mo agoSeems like your advocacy of the devil still supports the parent comment’s speculation of this being a cultural revolution appealing to workers who have been “left behind” (e.g. coal miners who didn’t learn how to code).
- joe_mamba 7mo ago>We’re pushing people to be plumbers instead of scientists. What?! Who's doing that? Plumbers and scientists are not interchangeable cogs. Big brain scientist won't make good plumbers and plumbers won't make good scientists. And plus, so what if they would be doing it? Why do you make it sound like being a plumber is like being a leper somehow? The world needs plumbers too and they make a pretty penny. See that US warship that wasn't combat effective anymore because the shitters broke. You can't win a war with starbucks sipping scientists, you still need roughnecks willing to get their hands dirty, fight, build and fix things.
- Spooky23 7mo agoMaybe you’ve been in a coma, but there’s this dude in the White House that has imploded science funding. We’ve probably displaced a quarter million people directly, and universities are attriting more as foreign students aren’t coming. The copium offered is “go become a tradesman”. It’s just pandering nonsense offered to keep smug old people living in 1970 in line.
- fc417fc802 7mo agoI would tend to assume that the people overseeing the NSF are accomplished scientists. China has been more than happy to recruit those for at least the past couple decades. That said, I doubt this move negatively impacts their careers so I don't expect this alone would motivate any of them to leave the country. Other things might though. > Or that China manages its domestic variant of the NSF better Prior to Trump probably yes. Post Trump almost certainly. > and accepts people critical of the CCP ideology? Obviously not. But why are you assuming that those removed from their posts were vocal critics of the CCP?
- Aurornis 7mo agoI disagree with this move, but the people who lost these positions were in temporary advisory roles. This isn’t a career job for them. The article says 8 members are replaced every 2 years and the terms are 6 years long. Between 1/4 or 1/2 of them would have been replaced during this presidency, and whoever gets placed now will start to be replaced by the next administration. As for China: They’re not known for having independent advisory committees overseeing government decisions. They’re definitely not known for inviting foreigners to come join their government to oversee their spending. So if you’re implying these people are at risk of going to China to serve the same role, that’s way off the mark.
- joe_mamba 7mo ago>The article says 8 members are replaced every 2 years and the terms are 6 years long. So it's similar to working for the UN or IAEA where most jobs are fixed term.
- jazzyjackson 7mo agoI expect this will have downstream effects on more careers than just these 24 people.
- citizenkeen 7mo agoI don’t share your optimism that these positions will be replaced. I don’t know why you think they would be.
- huxley 7mo agoOh they’ll be replaced, by toadies and GOP Youth interns looking for a salary and resume boost
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- smegma2 7mo agoWhy not find out and let us know? You’re implying an answer without knowing what it is
- bdangubic 7mo agoIt would be quite amazing if people in the US realized how much brain went to China in the last 16 months. I am a govie (contractor) and just what I know alone is …
- saxelsen 7mo agoWhat do you know?
- wak90 7mo agoChina is the only hope